NY's Vindictive Plans for carry - special session next week to respond to SCOTUS's ruling. (Merged)

gunpoliticsny said:

Gov. Hochul just said on CBS she will call lawmakers back for a special session next week to respond to SCOTUS's ruling.

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Grimscale said:

Already am, but this would just add further fuel to the fire.



Ever notice how they are permitted to remain hidden, but us plebs must declare our location and what we are carrying at every moment?

I wonder what would happen the next time she decides to inflict her crazy on Western New York and is met with boiling tar and feathers. Hypothetically, of course.

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FRB said:

Hochul is as evil as they come. Seen it face to face several years ago as I spoke to her, I had to walk away fast. This is NY right now:

"When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn." - Proverbs 29:2

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Deplorable Me said:

Back in her Erie County days she seemed okay, even improved the pistol permit office. Sold her soul for delusions of power.

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pshift said:

S(He) lost me when she stated that "It's our job to protect our citizens". Straight out of the commuist manifesto!!!

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pshift said:

S(He) lost me when she stated that "It's our job to protect our citizens". Straight out of the commuist manifesto!!!

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Grimscale said:

Already am, but this would just add further fuel to the fire.



Ever notice how they are permitted to remain hidden, but us plebs must declare our location and what we are carrying at every moment?

I wonder what would happen the next time she decides to inflict her crazy on Western New York and is met with boiling tar and feathers. Hypothetically, of course.

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FRB said:

She did..... but no doubt I seen the evil in her eyes up close as I questioned her. It was very weird. Like I said had to walk away fast,

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pshift said:

S(He) lost me when she stated that "It's our job to protect our citizens". Straight out of the commuist manifesto!!!

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gunpoliticsny said:

Gov. Hochul just said on CBS she will call lawmakers back for a special session next week to respond to SCOTUS's ruling.

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libertysnake said:

Just a thought, but maybe The People are overdue for a special session as well.

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pshift said:

S(He) lost me when she stated that "It's our job to protect our citizens". Straight out of the commuist manifesto!!!

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ManualF150 said:

Hochul is not professional, is unsportsmanlike, and is disrespectful.

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spat said:

Not hypothetically.

Someone should show up at her next appearance with a driveway sealing trailer that's been exposed to the contents of several pillows...

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ManualF150 said:

A true professional leader bites their lip and moves on.

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ManualF150 said:

How she is handling the SCOTUS decision is in my opinion VERY unprofessional. By her stating all of this nonsense it is technically insubordination.

No different than my workplace saying I need to do something. Yeah, I may not like it, but the rules come from the top down. If I don't like it, well I get fired for refusing to do what they tell me to do.

Hochul needs to suck it up buttercup and move on. It may be uncomfortable or she may not agree with it, however that is what is coming from the top down. A true professional leader bites their lip and moves on.

Hochul is not professional, is unsportsmanlike, and is disrespectful.

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Bigfoot said:

Maybe at some point, FUKH will go down in political flames.

New York State Governors seem to be good at that.

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Tisto said:

We're not that lucky. She was born with a golden horseshoe up her ass. She has done nothing to deserve her good fortunes, and been installed as a Congressman, then she got installed as Governor. She has managed to position herself at the right place and time to reap rewards that she hasn't earned. I wouldn't expect her to have a fall from grace. We're going to have to actively replace her.

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nobody said:

They are going to have a difficult time defending any such antics, the court gave clear guidance. Intermediate scrutiny is out, strict scrutiny is in.


A public official who egregiously defies the law risks voiding their qualified immunity, opening themselves to massive personal liabilities, criminal proceedings against them, loss of professional licenses, the ability hold public office, the ability to carry a firearm, etc.


"Sensitive places" where carry of weapons is prohibited has been long established by the judiciary...

Court houses, airports, etc where everyone must pass through a security screening checkpoint AND a persistent and obligated police presence is provided for everyone's protection, pass the test.

Where there is no security screening checkpoint to exclude weapons AND there is no persistent police presence obligated to provide for your security, your personal/property security is your own responsibility. Thus the 2nd remains in full effect.

If they do not upgrade subways and anywhere else to equivalent standards, then they will fail the established "sensitive place" allowance under strict scrutiny. In 99.9999% of the Countryside, the police have no obligation to provide for your personal/property security, thus the 2nd is in full effect. Where there are controls on the presence of all weapons and police are obligated to provide security, there is a reasonable restraint of the 2nd.


Inversion of the 2nd with regard to private property also fails the "sensitive place" test and would easily be demonstrated to be an unreasonable seizure upon private property.


The notion of making the permitting process oppressively onerous would also fail strict scrutiny, and violates numerous civil rights laws. Strict scrutiny allows petitioners to cite permitting standards that are in effect nationwide rather than just priorities in NY. 43 states, a preponderance are shall issue and have less gun crime than NY.


Of course, all of this will have to be fought for and won in the courts. The Supreme Court just gave cause and the leverage to do so with the strict scrutiny analysis. Laws that are already on the books are presumed to be just and lawful, so it requires actual effort to undo those that are not. That is how our system works.

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Drinkthekoolaid said:

Listen to Beaver face now.

She's every bit as painful as FUAC. maybe even more so.

I think she's going to try to have laws changed to put weight and force of law behind "no gun" signs on private property and she's going to expand the restricted/banned places for legal owners to carry.

She's yammering on about preventing people from carrying in public because someone might look at your girlfriend wrong and make you angry and escalate to shooting. Wtf???

Then she rambled on about needing to make NY safe for the anticipated great migration of women fleeing to NY for reproductive freedom. What the actual F?!

That's the justification you are going to use to restrict my rights as a responsible sound minded lawful citizen?!


Go right to hell KH. leave me the hell alone.

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