Why does no one actually read the Second Amendment ?

The Militia back then was "anyone" but mostly able-body males 18 and above! And it's obvious to ME that The Right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed. Very basic & very clear in my eyes. There's NO reading between the lines on this.

You are the Militia a individual and in one their are many

And the "well regulated" part refers to being well supplied with a weapon and the ammo for it.

What I would give for a time machine to go back and tell those guys to drop the whole militia part.

There is the organized, and unorganized militias. Organized is part time soldiers who get paid, the unorganized is the common man.

The New York Guard (not national guard) is NY's state militia. They are volunteers and commanded by only the governor. Not sure if they ever get paid when they are activated but they are not paid to train and drill.

DeSantis got ripped for reactivating the state guard in Florida last December but few "journalists" including New York based ones bothered to note that New York already has the New York Guard, California has the California State Guard, etc.

CaseHardened said:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Ok.

So can we report even ONE "well regulated Militia" in this Country ?

Historically, did we ever have one ?

Does the reasoning that "Militia" = "Army" hold water ?

Personally, I am thinking the National Guard was originally created to be controlled by each State Governor, and was to be largrely independent of the Federal Goverment.

But the 2A is so unclear.

What do you think it means ?

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Nothing unclear about it... And SCOTUS answered the question as well.

The PEOPLE are the MILITIA...

No need for formalities, or an assembly recognized by the Federal Gov't, or their approval either.

The PEOPLE ... "WE" are the people, "WE" are the MILITIA. In the street walking to our car, playing in the park, etc. Done!

The 2A says nothing of the rights of the militia, so the rest on that end is irrelevant really.

"I just repainted the siding on my house, therefor we shall not drop infants into woodchippers too close to my house."

By the anti nutter arguments, if I did not just repaint my house, we wouldn't have reason to not drop infants into woodchippers near my house.

only with muskets

dsdmmat said:

Well regulated means trained. When called to defend your town, state or country you were required to show up with your own gun, powder, bullets and know how to use it.

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That is why I've invested the time to learn how to make my own powder (22lr for now), learn to reload and most importantly know how to safely operate a variety of guns in case that time ever arises.

Next steps are casting my own bullets, figure out how to make my own primers, and eventually make my own guns (not for resale) for personal use. It's all doable, just time...

I really love shooting the ammo I manufacture. Something about it is very enjoyable.

Even in 2022, folks think the government can protect them from invading forces. Wrong. Dead wrong. Nothing has changed, other than people's mindsets and views because of laziness and what they see/interpret on the media.

Good news, my wife gave me permission to be the general in my mailitia, so all you motherfuckers better salute me next time we have a meeting

Jmac00 said:

Good news, my wife gave me permission to be the general in my mailitia, so all you motherfuckers better salute me next time we have a meeting

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Yes daddy.

CaseHardened said:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Ok.

So can we report even ONE "well regulated Militia" in this Country ?

Historically, did we ever have one ?

Does the reasoning that "Militia" = "Army" hold water ?

Personally, I am thinking the National Guard was originally created to be controlled by each State Governor, and was to be largrely independent of the Federal Goverment.

But the 2A is so unclear.

What do you think it means ?

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"Here is George Mason's quote in full, as recorded in the transcripts of the Virginia Ratifying Convention: “I ask, Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day."

Well regulated means you have a gun and powder and balls and can load and shoot the gun .. who the hell trained all the 15yr olds or younger who fought how to shoot .. wasn't the States Government . was papa and grand pa ..

tirwin1 said:

What I would give for a time machine to go back and tell those guys to drop the whole militia part.

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I'd also give them a smokeless cartridge to study, just to speed up the evolutionary process...we'd all have ray guns by now!

Oh and a bunch of Bic lighters I'd sell for gold coin. lol

anyone read the founders papers ??

Got my mobile copy for on-the-go reminders.

dsdmmat said:

I see you have your carry permit.

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Cant be taken from me now.

CaseHardened said:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Ok.

So can we report even ONE "well regulated Militia" in this Country ?

Historically, did we ever have one ?

Does the reasoning that "Militia" = "Army" hold water ?

Personally, I am thinking the National Guard was originally created to be controlled by each State Governor, and was to be largrely independent of the Federal Goverment.

But the 2A is so unclear.

What do you think it means ?

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Militias were and are comprised of “the people”. Therefore the people need to have weapons of war in their possesion in order to be able to create “a well regulated militia.

Major problem today, people read in today's English and context. 1700 English is almost a foreign language. If people took the time to actually uderstand what was said maybe they'd get it.

The key word here - is the word "SHALL" -- in legal terms, 'shall' denotes something that is mandatory, carved in stone, forever. 'SHALL NOT be infringed' - live by it.

I have news for ya'll///

Most Americans have no clue of any of their Rights. No clue our basic foundations, no idea what the Rights mean for all people.

They are far more concerned about their feelings, emotions and sociall media.

GOPerfect said:

I have news for ya'll///

Most Americans have no clue of any of their Rights. No clue our basic foundations, no idea what the Rights mean for all people.

They are far more concerned about their feelings, emotions and sociall media.

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And then they believe in all sorts of imaginary rights that not only don't exist, but *can't* exist.

dsdmmat said:

I see you have your carry permit.

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Yeah but only good for small arms.