Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

Acer-m14 said:

BTW .. wasn't the raid at like 10am or in the daytime .. ?? if im correct so way all of the night time cop lights flashing on the entrance gate ?

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I read someplace that they left at 6pm and was there for 9 hours., so yes why the flashing lights at night? Maybe that was after the raid, the time people lined the street showing support for Trump.

spat said:

Is anyone else troubled a bit that the search warrant was basically written for "any documents that might be evidence of a crime" ?

That seems pretty vague to me. Search warrants are supposed to be very specific.

That's basically a judicially authorized fishing expedition.

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Not to mention the entirety of the premise.
So, it basically says "search all of Mar-a-lago until you find something we can use on him"

Hope he didnt have milk crates

This story gets crazier by the day.


Durham is investigating the FBI agents that raided Trump's home. This would tend to give credence to CTH's theory the raid was intended to get documents related to russiagate.

My question is - if trump had these documents declassified why in the hell didn't he release them two seconds after that?

• Trump Isn't Blinking as He Takes Apart FBI Raid With an Important Point

We wrote about the warrant being unsealed and some of the documents that were allegedly seized. But we also reported how they got the warrant on August 5 but didn’t serve it until August 8. So if there was some big national security concern about the documents, why did they wait three days? They didn’t exactly make it seem like there was anything urgent by doing that.

As Trump commented on Friday, all they had to do is ask.

Third, what remains at issue is whether Trump can be charged with these violations. This isn’t a normal criminal case. Rather, it implicates this country’s foundational separations of powers, and whether Congress can limit the power of the Executive. Put it another way, can Congress criminalize declassification by a US President? I think not. The same might be said for the preservation of records after a President leaves office. Mike Davis has some great points on this general topic:

Mike Davis @mrddmia
Again, the classification statutes/regulations *do not apply* to the President of the United States. He has the inherent constitutional power, as commander-in-chief, to classify and declassify anything he wants, in any manner he wants. The Supreme Court reaffirmed this in 1987.
Mike Davis @mrddmia
In 1987, the Supreme Court (again) made clear the President has constitutional power, as commander-in-chief, to classify and declassify. Regardless of any statute passed by Congress. Did AG Merrick Garland obtain an OLC opinion before ordering his illegal Trump raid? Why not? https://t.co/falznetyDP

Motive Clear, DOJ Search Warrant Was to Seize Every Single Document During Entirety of President Trump Term in Office, Regardless of Classification​

A lot of people are discussing the recently released search warrant authorized by a sketchy judge in Florida. For the best legal analysis, I would direct people to our friend Techno Fog via substack: SEE HERE – Techno is, and has been, totally dialed in on a granular level throughout the Trump term in office.

I would emphasize one major point and draw attention to something in the background that almost no-one noticed years ago.

First, the search warrant was not specific, was not detailed, was not drawn out to avoid targeting ancillary items unrelated to the DOJ mission at heart. The warrant itself was structured to seize every scintilla of documentary evidence, seen, created, or produced during President Trump’s term in office. Literally every shred of paper. [WARRANT LINK]

Against that backdrop I would also draw attention to something almost everyone forgot or didn’t know.

The same DOJ voices that are behind this current effort are the same voices that literally, and unlawfully, took every single document from the President Trump transition team in 2017.

Most people have forgotten, but in a massive breach of established protocol and legal structure, the Robert Mueller special counsel illegally took custody of the Trump transition documents from every official who was then entering office. The issue was only discovered mid-December of 2017 [pdf link]:

Bluff Called, President Trump Responds to Ridiculous DOJ and FBI Claims of Nuclear Documents at Mar-a-Lago​

August 12, 2022 | Sundance | 578 Comments
The raid on President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate coincides with developments in the civil lawsuit he filed against Hillary Clinton, Perkins Coie, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and the entire cabal of DOJ, FBI and Clinton campaign operatives via the fake Trump-Russia collusion hoax known as ‘spygate’.
It doesn’t take a deep political analyst to look at the 108-page lawsuit, consider the evidence that would be needed to prove the lawsuit at trial, then overlay the timing of the court case and FBI raid to see both the content of the files at Mar-a-Lago and the motives of the DOJ and FBI to intercept them. {GO DEEP}
The severity of the raid highlights the desperation and political intent behind it. The ridiculous justification for the raid, nuclear documents, highlights the unstable desperation to control the political damage from it. President Trump responds via Truth Social:

In addition to being named in the lawsuit, many of those names were interviewed by the FBI as part of the origination of the Trump-Russia investigation, and/or part of the ongoing investigation of the Trump-Russia fabrication. Each of those interviews would carry an FD-302 report summarizing the content of the interview, the questions and answers given.

The totality of those 302 documents is a lot of evidence likely consisting of hundreds of pages.

For the government officials on the inside, in addition to 302’s (ex Bruce Ohr) there would be documents of communication between them.

tirwin1 said:

This story gets crazier by the day.

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Durham is investigating the FBI agents that raided Trump's home. This would tend to give credence to CTH's theory the raid was intended to get documents related to russiagate.

My question is - if trump had these documents declassified why in the hell didn't he release them two seconds after that?

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I wouldn't put a lot of faith in Durham investigating FBI agents. Maybe just for appearance sake but nothing really substantive. If the CTH theory holds credibility then Part 3 of the essay is very applicable here as it seems to imply the Durham investigation as little more than a controlled opposition investigation set up by Barr.

"Within a few weeks, May 2019, the newly appointed and confirmed Attorney General Bill Barr tells President Trump to remove himself from the declassification issue and give him the authority to declassify and release documents because Barr has an investigator (John Durham) to look into the corrupt activity behind the Trump-Russia collusion hoax."

"AG Bill Barr used the “ongoing criminal investigation,” led by the man he appointed, John Durham, as a justification for non-release of documents."

"Bill Barr replaced the obstruction and interference threat carried by Mueller special counsel, with the obstruction and interference threat carried by the Durham special counsel. The ‘ongoing investigation‘ narrative created both swords of Damocles. One created by Rosenstein/Mueller the other created by Barr/Durham."

"Then Bill Barr did something even worse. He made sure Donald Trump could never remove it."

"The special counsel block of investigative material continued from May 13, 2019, all the way to today. The Durham special counsel is an active and ongoing investigation."

It's no wonder why the Durham report hasn't done anything and won't do anything.

LINK
Part 3, Why Did the DOJ and FBI Execute the Raid on Trump - A Culmination of Four Years of Threats and Betrayals - The Last Refuge


Releasing documents now won't do him any good while he's on the outside. The irony is that releasing the documents to Wikileaks would have been a more effective route because they had a decent left-wing following, but their wings have been clipped. It's no wonder why they wanted Assange so badly. Maybe Trump should have pardoned him on the way out.

lrick said:

I wouldn't put a lot of faith in Durham investigating FBI agents. Maybe just for appearance sake but nothing really substantive. If the CTH theory holds credibility then Part 3 of the essay is very applicable here as it seems to imply the Durham investigation as little more than a controlled opposition investigation set up by Barr.

"Within a few weeks, May 2019, the newly appointed and confirmed Attorney General Bill Barr tells President Trump to remove himself from the declassification issue and give him the authority to declassify and release documents because Barr has an investigator (John Durham) to look into the corrupt activity behind the Trump-Russia collusion hoax."

"AG Bill Barr used the “ongoing criminal investigation,” led by the man he appointed, John Durham, as a justification for non-release of documents."

"Bill Barr replaced the obstruction and interference threat carried by Mueller special counsel, with the obstruction and interference threat carried by the Durham special counsel. The ‘ongoing investigation‘ narrative created both swords of Damocles. One created by Rosenstein/Mueller the other created by Barr/Durham."

"Then Bill Barr did something even worse. He made sure Donald Trump could never remove it."

"The special counsel block of investigative material continued from May 13, 2019, all the way to today. The Durham special counsel is an active and ongoing investigation."

It's no wonder why the Durham report hasn't done anything and won't do anything.

LINK
Part 3, Why Did the DOJ and FBI Execute the Raid on Trump - A Culmination of Four Years of Threats and Betrayals - The Last Refuge


Releasing documents now won't do him any good while he's on the outside. The irony is that releasing the documents to Wikileaks would have been a more effective route because they had a decent left-wing following, but their wings have been clipped. It's no wonder why they wanted Assange so badly. Maybe Trump should have pardoned him on the way out.

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The author (Sundance) at the Conservatives Treehouse does very good leg work in terms of looking into things, putting puzzle pieces together (even if I don't always agree with him there), analyzing, stringing together facts and credible suppositions to come up with theories or pretty clear insight/conclusions, and so on.

I respect him to a certain point (which from me is high praise, as I respect very few people who report or write news or opinion).

That being said, it should be kept in mind that for a good while he was on the whole "there are white hats in the government that are going to expose the Deep State, take it apart, and/or bring real charges and even convictions against the traitors in and out of Washington DC," bandwagon. That was pie in the sky at best, and very naive.

It is not something new for any given writer to wake up and realize that many Federal investigations/operations involving Alphabet Soup agencies (especially DoJ, FBI, and all of the intelligence agencies known and unknown) are the means by which investigations into corruption, treason, malfeasance, racketeering, and on and on, make things go away for the "right people," and/or go after someone who is innocent while ignoring the guilty, or accusing the innocent of what the guilty people are doing.

The Sundance shtick is to make it seem like he's schooling everyone about what has already been known by educated people for many decades. Anyone who lived through the Clinton era, long before Sundance started writing, knows what I am talking about. It was in our face then and simply has not stopped at all since, with only brief interludes.

The Clintons have been neck deep in organized crime going way back before they landed in the White House. They ought to have been properly investigated decades ago, brought to justice, found guilty, and executed by firing squad or hanging as traitors to this nation for the bullshit they pulled before we ever got to the point of Hillary running for president.

They have never been held accountable, because practically every agency in FedGov is staffed with Fed Coats who cover for them and make "problems" go away.

Sundance would do well to stop with the shtick. The rot has been deep and ongoing longer than I've been alive, and thus longer than he's been blogging. The FBI (for example, but feel free to pick any agency in FedGov) has been playing dirty pool... forever.

Justice in America is deader than Kennedy (another family of organized criminals who greatly harmed this nation).

BREAKING: NSC Won’t Fulfill Subpoena Request For Susan Rice Unmasking Documents – The Records Were Moved to Obama Library Published June 19, 2017 at 4:27pm​

Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” were removed government possession.

John Stark said:

The author (Sundance) at the Conservatives Treehouse does very good leg work in terms of looking into things, putting puzzle pieces together (even if I don't always agree with him there), analyzing, stringing together facts and credible suppositions to come up with theories or pretty clear insight/conclusions, and so on.

I respect him to a certain point (which from me is high praise, as I respect very people who report or write news or opinion).

That being said, it should be kept in mind that for a good while he was on the whole "there are white hats in the government that are going to expose the Deep State, take it apart, and/or bring real charges and even convictions against the traitors in and out of Washington DC," bandwagon. That was pie in the sky at best, and very naive.

It is not something new for any given writer to wake up and realize that many Federal investigations/operations involving Alphabet Soup agencies (especially DoJ, FBI, and all of the intelligence agencies known and unknown) are the means by which investigations into corruption, treason, malfeasance, racketeering, and on and on, make things go away for the "right people," and/or go after someone who is innocent while ignoring the guilty, or accusing the innocent of what the guilty people are doing.

The Sundance shtick is to make it seem like he's schooling everyone about what has already been known by educated people for many decades. Anyone who lived through the Clinton era, long before Sundance started writing, knows what I am talking about. It was in our face then and simply has not stopped at all since, with only brief interludes.

The Clintons have been neck deep in organized crime going way back before they landed in the White House. They ought to have been properly investigated decades ago, brought to justice, found guilty, and executed by firing squad or hanging as traitors to this nation for the bullshit they pulled before we ever got to the point of Hillary running for president.

They have never been held accountable, because practically every agency in FedGov is staffed with Fed Coats who cover for them and make "problems" go away.

Sundance would do well to stop with the shtick. The rot has been deep and ongoing longer than I've been alive, and thus longer than he's been blogging. The FBI (for example, but feel free to pick any agency in FedGov) has been playing dirty pool... forever.

Justice in America is deader than Kennedy (another family of organized criminals who greatly harmed this nation).

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I am not familiar with Sundance's writings over time, so thank you, I'll have to dig more. Seems like he bought into the white hat/black hat paradigm I've seen put forward by the Storm/Qanon movement, which IMO is LARPing, or controlled opposition or just wishful thinking at best.

I did raise an eyebrow to this statement in part 1 - "...many people think defunding the Intelligence Community is a solution; it is not…. at least, not yet. Worse yet, the corrupt divisions deep inside the U.S. intelligence system can now fund themselves from multinational private sector partnerships (banks, corporations and foreign entities)." It struck me as odd because I think defunding would at least be a place to start (maybe not coincidentally, it is the current thrust being made towards local LE...it's not over-reaching that much to assume IC alphabet groups would love to fill that LE void). It could expose alternate funding streams for the IC. I would think they would then be subject to the Emoluments Clause.

I agree this has been ongoing to various degrees long before even Clinton, perhaps ever since this country was founded. The people that influence and steer governments live and plan on time scales the average don't understand. They are brought up and taught differently and don't face the same struggles we do.

I think Clinton's reputation appealed to them because he was already compromised and they felt they could work with him or otherwise keep him put in his place. Yeah, I remember White Water, cattle futures, Paula Jones and Vince Foster. Perot (a Tech company operative) being inserted as a 3rd candidate destroyed G. H. W. Bush's chance of a 2nd term. Perot got about 20% of the vote. The last time a 3rd party candidate did that well was 1912...and what followed that?

I also think G. H. W. Bush was part of the whole cabal (as was his father and Grand-father before), but in 1992 the IC decided they no longer wanted a POTUS that connected and aware of their actions. George W's election was GHWB's 2nd and 3rd terms.

Funny, but when these things occur all the talk about the WEF and Great Reset drop off the radar, but I think they are connected (especially when you consider funding schemes described previously). Everything I see happening seems to me we are being driven into new age of feudalism. You will own nothing and will be happy. The resistance to Trump is global.

Food for thought. Do you really think the fbi would have dared pulled off that raid While TRUMP, his private Security force , His Secret Service were there. ? Really ????? BIG fucking Rat in the closet.
Given that the kunts were looking for "NOW nuclear secrets [ codes] why did the shit boys toss his wifes Closet and underwear ?????????????

Nevar said:

Food for thought. Do you really think the fbi would have dared pulled off that raid While TRUMP, his private Security force , His Secret Service were there. ? Really ????? BIG fucking Rat in the closet.
Given that the kunts were looking for "NOW nuclear secrets [ codes] why did the shit boys toss his wifes Closet and underwear ?????????????

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Supposedly the FBI called the Secret Service agents working the Mar-a-lago detail ahead of time and told them they were coming. Could also that one of the SS agents served as the Confidential Human Source (CHS) for the affidavit. Makes sense since the FBI requested a more secure lock put on the storage door, that was likely done by the SS. So, yeah, none of that was going to stop them...they are rabid about stopping Trump.

Secret Service Agents are Federal agents first, and protectors second...not the other way around. They wouldn't have stood in the way. And that is straight from Bongino.

Dr. Evil said:

Informant ‘Very Close’ to Trump May Have Tipped FBI: Ex-Chief of Staff - The Thinking Conservative

Former White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said some close to President Donald Trump may have tipped off the FBI before raid.

www.thethinkingconservative.com

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From the article:

After serving as Trump’s chief of staff, Mulvaney was appointed to a position as special envoy to Northern Ireland after the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol breach. Mulvaney resigned from that position on Jan. 6 and has often criticized Trump.



Did Mulvaney have his arm twisted to do this CNN hit piece? Although he did try to point out that there were other optics that day, I'd take anything he has to say with a grain of salt.

Acer-m14 said:

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Too bad they don't work this hard at catching enemies and traitors of this country. Oh wait, that's what they are.

he is ALIVE .. sumbitch ..

I like the way this writer summarizes the impact of the raid on Trump's political prospects.


The raid has made trump more popular which is making all the right people wet their pants.

holdover said:

Cant speak to its validity, but its interesting.

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LOL, you can't "re-classify" a document 30 minutes after someone leaves office, thats called entrapment, and even if they did, they would have to call old Donny up and say "hey, bring them back, or we can send someone to get them"