For the p365 haters - Glock 43X

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Defilade said:
Yes it looks like I need to wait also. Sucks cause I want the 365 like now.. Recent review here, He seems to be honest about it.

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Looks like the timing issue isn't fixed and the striker is still hitting the rim because the barrel is tilting up before the case is extracted. A harder striker works as a bandaid but when running the gun hard, it's only a matter of time before it gives as well as evidenced in the video.

I suspect that people on here running a few hundred rounds a session aren't pushing the gun hard enough for the striker to fail.
 
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71velle said:
So how many rounds need to be fired in a session to be considering pushing it hard?
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I don't know. But that guy in your video did about 1500 in 2 days. All the other students put in the same number of rounds with other guns and their pins didn't break.

Anyway, what kind of a question is this? Are you defending the failure?
 
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Willjr75 said:
I don't know. But that guy in your video did about 1500 in 2 days. All the other students put in the same number of rounds with other guns and their pins didn't break.

Anyway, what kind of a question is this? Are you defending the failure?
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Its a good one based on you statement that I quoted.

I want to know how firing a few hundred rounds at a time is any easier on a pistol....
 
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Willjr75 said:
Like who? I would buy the Sig when it's deemed 100 percent reliable in a few years. I've said as such. I have no prejudice. Even Edward said he would.

I think Fartman is the only closeminded individual here.
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Oh c'mon Will, you Glockers sound like the racist that says, 'but, but, I really dig Ray Charles'.

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71velle said:
So is it how many rounds fired in a session or total rounds?

Still waiting on what constitutes running a gun hard.
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What happens when you run your gun hard continuosly to a high round count vs just doing a little everyday to the same round count? Does your barrel and chamber heat up when you do it continuosly? What happens to metal after it's heated?
 
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I've only taken my 365 to the range twice so far because of family commitments. Round count remains at about 400+/-. Both times I shot about 200 through it in less than an hour. Both times the gun got too hot to hold by the slide. I've taken classes that took most of the day to reach 200 rounds. Running a gun "hard" is purely subjective.
 
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Who cares about what constitutes running a gun hard? All that anyone should be concerned with is other guns being run at the same level and not experiencing failures that the Sig is experiencing.

You guys are making excuses for it. It's sad. There is no reason why the primer should drag onto the rim of the cartridge repeatedly. All guns have some primer drag but not to the point where it bangs up against the case. They just slightly drag on the soft primer. That's normal.

Fix the damned timing issue so that it doesn't happen instead of trying to beef up the striker to be able to take that punishment that it shouldn't be getting to begin with.
 
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Now you don't care about running a gun hard? I was responding to your comments. BTW your concern is with striker drag not primer drag.
 
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Willjr75 said:
Who cares about what constitutes running a gun hard? All that anyone should be concerned with is other guns being run at the same level and not experiencing failures that the Sig is experiencing.

You guys are making excuses for it. It's sad. There is no reason why the primer should drag onto the rim of the cartridge repeatedly. All guns have some primer drag but not to the point where it bangs up against the case. They just slightly drag on the soft primer. That's normal.

Fix the damned timing issue so that it doesn't happen instead of trying to beef up the striker to be able to take that punishment that it shouldn't be getting to begin with.
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So does the Sig P365 suffer from a heat problem from being run too "hard" or a timing issue?
 
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togmaster said:
Now you don't care about running a gun hard? I was responding to your comments. BTW your concern is with striker drag not primer drag.
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Maybe you should go back and read, I had a question about due to Wills statement.

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"I suspect that people on here running a few hundred rounds a session aren't pushing the gun hard enough for the striker to fail."

So, his statement was pushing a gun hard that causes failure not the striker drag.
 
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71velle said:
Maybe you should go back and read, I had a question about due to Wills statement.

His words
"I suspect that people on here running a few hundred rounds a session aren't pushing the gun hard enough for the striker to fail."

So, his statement was pushing a gun hard that causes failure not the striker drag.
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I read the posts but he keeps saying "primer drag"
 
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71velle said:
So is it how many rounds fired in a session or total rounds?

Still waiting on what constitutes running a gun hard.
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I think those 2 things are one in the same as far as when the gun breaks. But surely you would agree that shooting x amount of rounds in a short amount of time is different than shooting x amount of rounds over a longer period of time?
 
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71velle said:
So does the Sig P365 suffer from a heat problem from being run too "hard" or a timing issue?
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It's a timing issue as I've explained before. The barrel is tilting before the case is fully extracted causing the excessive primer drag. As with anything, metal expands when heated. Whether the striker itself is being heated, I don't know. But what I do know is that the striker is constantly striking the rim of the case eventually leading to the striker's failure.

You can search that on Google. Actual Sig owners have said this.
 
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Willjr75 said:
It's a timing issue as I've explained before. The barrel is tilting before the case is fully extracted causing the excessive primer drag. As with anything, metal expands when heated. Weather the striker itself is being heated, I don't know. But what I do know is that the primer is constantly striking the rim eventually leading to the striker's failure.

You can search that on Google. Actual Sig owners have said this.
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Willjr75 said:
Looks like the timing issue isn't fixed and the striker is still hitting the rim because the barrel is tilting up before the case is extracted. A harder striker works as a bandaid but when running the gun hard, it's only a matter of time before it gives as well as evidenced in the video.

I suspect that people on here running a few hundred rounds a session aren't pushing the gun hard enough for the striker to fail.
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It's a timing issue as I've explained before. The barrel is tilting before the case is fully extracted causing the excessive primer drag. As with anything, metal expands when heated. Whether the striker itself is being heated, I don't know. But what I do know is that the striker is constantly striking the rim of the case eventually leading to the striker's failure.

You can search that on Google. Actual Sig owners have said this.
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I cant keep your story straight :idk:
 
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Jaywmustang said:
Can any current sig p365 owners post pics of their brass?
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Yes let's see that! Be honest! Don't post brass for other guns and pass it off as to be 365 brass.

Because actual sig owners from other sites posted their brass showing the extreme striker drag.
 
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Jaywmustang said:
Can any current sig p365 owners post pics of their brass?
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I believe this has been asked numerous times.
And yet nothing, hell didnt someone just post that they just got done shooting their 365 in the last 48hrs or so? Why haven't we seen the brass
 
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