Krav Maga

Soccer mom or Gracie?

What would you like to discuss?

Are you into it?

I have been looking for a good place to train in this discipline. Unfortunately, I can't really find a place.

We have a good place in my town, i wanted to put my kids in it (3) but cant afford it yet.. its pricey. Id like to get into it with them, but gotta wait.

Yea one of the other reasons I am not training. I think its a nich thing currently so they over price the hell out of it. I think the last place I looked at was something like 1800 for 6 months.

Only having a black belt in LWI this looks very practical, interesting too.
Robin

Erran Morrad has some great videos on YouTube

This discipline is designed for one thing, eliminate enemy threat(s). They train for multiple attackers and quick ending strikes. This is one of the most savage hand to hand combat systems there is.

Self Defense Classes | Fitness Workouts | Krav Maga New York

This is the place in my town. It really is brutal, and intended to deal with life threatening attacks, often against armed attackers.

I've watched a few episodes on JLTV pretty interesting it airs on Saturdays channel 469 on my cable box

This guy is pretty good and gives a good example of what this is about.

By practical I mean useful..............
Robin

Celt said:

Self Defense Classes | Fitness Workouts | Krav Maga New York

This is the place in my town. It really is brutal, and intended to deal with life threatening attacks, often against armed attackers.

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Somehow, I get the feeling that you already have plenty of, moves!
Robin

Interested, but nothing quite near me. Would have to drive an hour+.
That, and I'm terribly uncoordinated and middle aged, and I'm not sure how much I want to embarrass myself

Phritz said:

Interested, but nothing quite near me. Would have to drive an hour+.
That, and I'm terribly uncoordinated and middle aged, and I'm not sure how much I want to embarrass myself

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Everyone starts somewhere, all the more reason to train and overcome what you feel are your shortcomings. Any MMA training is good too, and those places are everywhere now.

The teacher and how you learn is more important then the style. Arts like Krav Maga are great no bs go for the throat kinda martial art, i love it. A lot of schools are out there to make money and not generate lawsuits. I've studied Kenpo for a long time. I don't think it's the best art but I had a great teacher who taught us to end threats as quickly as possible with overwhelming violence, not to fight someone, most the best stuff was taught to us who stayed after class. In the end a punch is a punch no matter what name someone attaches to it. I'm sure I can find Kenpo in Krav Maga and Krav Maga in Kenpo.
I'd recommend going to classes and watch them see what you think of it. A good school will sell itself. Krav, boxing, mma are all great places to start. I'd steer clear of kenpo or any Chinese /Japanese arts unless you know the place is legit, most schools nowerdays are teaching nonsense.

This is the truth. Although I had a buddy who did a form of kenpo that was a beast. Actually got into trouble cuz he beat the living shit out of 4 dudes who corner him, all wrestlers. One guy I wouldn’t fuck with
It’s not so much the style but the teacher, but more importantly, you. Not shitting on krav magra by any means but these are flashy choreographed videos of an expert. You can’t teach those high kicks to somebody that doesn’t spend considerable time each stretching.
Most important thing is to pick a style that has a decent focus on sparring, conditioning, and how to actually take a hit.

@cgrutt . What happened? Someone didn't pay you for a job? You are trained in the fine arts of Glockati.

I have lower back problems .. I felt that it could cause surgery for me down the line ... I went to one class to observe ... It was interesting that they said if one was a felon they would reject teaching you. .... It was a small class 15 people max with several guards from the Monroe county jail attending.

livingston said:

I have lower back problems .. I felt that it could cause surgery for me down the line ... I went to one class to observe ... It was interesting that they said if one was a felon they would reject teaching you. .... It was a small class 15 people max with several guards from the Monroe county jail attending.

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I also have low back problems, I have a herniated disc and arthritis in my lower back and I live in pain everyday, and on arthritis medicine. But staying in shape and exercising helps minimize the pain. Although admittedly, if I had to wrestle around at 100% on a regular basis my back probably wouldn't appreciate it too much.

Toecutter said:

The teacher and how you learn is more important then the style. Arts like Krav Maga are great no bs go for the throat kinda martial art, i love it. A lot of schools are out there to make money and not generate lawsuits. I've studied Kenpo for a long time. I don't think it's the best art but I had a great teacher who taught us to end threats as quickly as possible with overwhelming violence, not to fight someone, most the best stuff was taught to us who stayed after class. In the end a punch is a punch no matter what name someone attaches to it. I'm sure I can find Kenpo in Krav Maga and Krav Maga in Kenpo.
I'd recommend going to classes and watch them see what you think of it. A good school will sell itself. Krav, boxing, mma are all great places to start. I'd steer clear of kenpo or any Chinese /Japanese arts unless you know the place is legit, most schools nowerdays are teaching nonsense.

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Uuusssss! All truth!

Martial Arts, is hard to find! There are plenty of "take my dough jo's" that practice "Sport"...

Find the real deal and you instantly know the difference. I know a few Kempo guys, but most moved on to other styles. No joke fellas for sure! Life protection arts should not be confused with any "sport" BS. Even these MMA schools don't teach, and don't know the real deal. A true Krav Maga teacher is worth their weight in gold. Is a quick style to learn as it is all technique not bogged down with forms.

MadScientist said:

This is the truth. Although I had a buddy who did a form of kenpo that was a beast. Actually got into trouble cuz he beat the living shit out of 4 dudes who corner him, all wrestlers. One guy I wouldn’t fuck with
It’s not so much the style but the teacher, but more importantly, you. Not shitting on krav magra by any means but these are flashy choreographed videos of an expert. You can’t teach those high kicks to somebody that doesn’t spend considerable time each stretching.
Most important thing is to pick a style that has a decent focus on sparring, conditioning, and how to actually take a hit.

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High kicks, work against untrained and unskilled and or sport, is not a practical technique for street or life/death combat. I used to get yelled at cause I hated stretching, but hey, was never kicking anything above the waist anyways... And yeah, true old style Martial Arts, sparring without pads. But I guess in the old days everyone wasn't running to lawyers when they got a boo-boo... I mean, you sign up for Martial training and really just want a work out, then you don't have your head in the right place. My opinion...

Anyways, as for Krav Maga, you find a "real" certified instructor. Check credentials as they're tighter than Gracie Jujitsu (legit ones). Go by word of mouth if you're in a good circle. Otherwise I wouldn't lend much weight to many of these so called Krav Maga teachers either. Most true students of the arts (Masters) will be very selective about who they share the real shit with. And the real shit is scary effective. Seen it, felt it, done it. Not many understand, and you don't, until you do, then you don't either. A "punch" is just a punch after all, lol.

Disclaimer: I haven't worked out and honed my skills for some time now. But always a student, still always reading, watching, listening, learning... Always!

Martial arts is a funny thing... When discussing styles or techniques, etc., my mind always remembers an old saying: "There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but for those who arrive there, the view is all the same"

Namaste!

Kenpo for a few years. Funny story, I was sparring with the instructor when new in front of the class. Think he liked me cause I was a former wrestler and full of energy, piss, and vinegar. I started to get a bit aggressive and tagged him, then I caught a kick just below the breastbone. I dropped just like a sack of potatoes, gasping for air. Definitely takes a few minutes to recover when the wind has been knocked out of you.

I'm too old, and hurt too much now to get back at it although I would like to.

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I'm too old, and hurt too much now to get back at it although I would like to.

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The same for me.
The sad part is, with the condition I'm in now, Krav Maga is precisely what i need for non lethal protection. I'm no longer filled with energy, piss or vinegar to get me through a confrontation. Well not a long, drawn out (read over 10 seconds) confrontation anyway.

There's sport fighting, and then there's self defense. Its the same thing to lot of people, but in practice its not.

#1! Sports fighting has rules ! Its not that there is anything wrong with sports fighting for self defense, there isn't, But there is a mental mind set which is definitely different. There is a video of Carlos conduit VS a special forces soldier which demonstrates this fact perfectly . Conduit Was a middle weight world champio0n UFC cage fighter , a real bad ass , the guy is tough as nails , and he was giving some instructions to the Spec Op guys In Afghanistan. And well you know , boys will be boys , one of the operators challenged him . So he obliged him . Now most of us know that Spec op guys are not trained to the same level as a UFC fighter . Because if your down to using your bare hands you really did something wrong. So Condit goes in there , knowing full well that this guy doesn't have a chance. 0 professional fights, and fighting against a world champ. So they walk into the ring and meet, and before the bell rings, the spec op swung and almost took his head off landing clean across the chin, he dropped the champ to the canvass , almost unconscious , not able to defend himself. He jumped on top of him and the ref broke it up.

Now a lot of people on you tube were bitching That it wasn't fair , Yadda yadda yadda.....Maybe it wasn't, But it fully demonstrated the thinking involved. The operator was trained to win in any circumstance by using deception , tactics, surprise, or strategy . To never give an enemy a fair fight. Had it been a real world situation He would have finished him easily.

They did fight after Condit recovered, and he tore him up pretty bad as can be expected. I cant find the fight on You tube .

Some of the weakness I see with Krav , is the ability to punch effectively, with force,and energy, and some of the moves they use presume that the guy cant hit with either hand or hit hard.

I like it for what it is, but if your serious , You need to hit with some authority , which takes time to do too .
Ive dabbled in a few arts , ( master of none) Issin Rue Karate , Halfway through. little bit Judo, some boxing.

And Like you guys are saying the instructor means a lot. I just started Boxing again , training really, I am not the man I used to be , sucking wind , but Im going slow. Im going to get more serious when the weather breaks, Im not running in this shit , It hurts my pussy.