NY Ghost Gun Ban Reintroduced

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What are all those criminals going to do to pass time if they can no longer spend late nights working on gun building projects?
 
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It still reads to say if you field strip your gun to clean it and put it back together, you are committing a crime.
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Do you mean this part of the text of the proposed bill?

8. Any person, other than a gunsmith duly licensed pursuant to section
27 400.00 of this chapter, who assembles, manufactures, or causes to be
28 assembled or manufactured, a firearm, rifle or shotgun is guilty of a
29 class C felony.
 
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Is there a definition of "assemble" in the bill?

The dissemination bit has been struck down by a federal court, how they think this will stand up is beyond me.
 
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BDinPutnam said:
Is there a definition of "assemble" in the bill?

The dissemination bit has been struck down by a federal court, how they think this will stand up is beyond me.
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Since when does Federal law stop NYS from enacting anything ?

Let 'em pass it. I'll ignore it just like I do with every other half assed gun control law they pass.

I'm DYING to see the first arrest of someone who detail strips their firearm for cleaning purposes then REASSEMBLES it.

Hopefully the arrestee is a Fudd.
 
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Chuck D said:
Since when does Federal law stop NYS from enacting anything ?

Let 'em pass it. I'll ignore it just like I do with every other half assed gun control law they pass.

I'm DYING to see the first arrest of someone who detail strips their firearm for cleaning purposes then REASSEMBLES it.

Hopefully the arrestee is a Fudd.
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FUDDS don’t do that. One pass of a patch and their gtg
 
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I feel stupid or I just don't understand stupid..
Because I have no idea what a ghost gun is , but that could be a whole bunch of guns according to a liberal..
 
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Bustedknees said:
I feel stupid or I just don't understand stupid..
Because I have no idea what a ghost gun is , but that could be a whole bunch of guns according to a liberal..
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If it can kill Casper it’s a ghost gun.
But to give you a serious answer to your question. It is a firearm with a homemade receiver you build yourself. Like getting an 80% AR lower.

Edit: figures another smart ass beat me to it
 
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BDinPutnam said:
Is there a definition of "assemble" in the bill?

The dissemination bit has been struck down by a federal court, how they think this will stand up is beyond me.
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BD, No, there is no definition of the word " assemble " in the proposed bill. The Webster on line dictionary gives this definition :
" To collect and put together the parts of; as, to assemble a bicycle, watch, gun, or other manufactured article. "
If passed as written, it will be really interesting to read about all of the new class C felons who were caught assembling their guns after field stripping them. Will we have to go out of state to clean our guns? (Credit to TB for flagging this loony bill. )

NYS Senator Hoylman is the sponsor of this bill. His bio states that he is a graduate of Harvard Law School. Amazing! Even without a law degree, I would be embarrassed to put my name on this bill.

Or, did he intentionally write this bill so that it is wildly overreaching? I think the answer is "yes".
The next part outlaws all pieces of "material", like all types of metals and plastics, if the purpose of the material is to build a gun.
Does the material have to self identify as wanting to be a part of a gun to be illegal?

28. "Unfinished firearm frame or receiver" means a piece of any mate-
11 rial that does not constitute the frame or receiver of a firearm, rifle
12 or shotgun but that has been shaped or formed in any way for the purpose
13 of becoming the frame or receiver of a firearm, rifle or shotgun.


BAD, BAD, BAD : If you sell or buy this block of metal and state it could be used to make a receiver:


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GOOD, GOOD GOOD: If you sell or buy this block of metal and say it can be used to make anything but a frame or receiver :
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