smithy
22lr
I would like to know if the case that comes with a Sig is TSA compliant. My brother has cancer and lives in Nevada, when I go see him next week i'm bringing the sig, is there anything I should be aware of ?
Air travel with a pistol
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I don't know what that case looks like but if it locks or has the ability to be locked with a padlock, it's good to go.
Magazines must be empty and can be placed in the box with the gun. Ammo must be separate and in original boxing or those plastic reloader, eggshell type aftermarket boxes.
They need to inspect that the gun or magazines isn't loaded at the ticket counter.
Tip. Remove the slide from the lower beforehand at home so that when you are required to show them that it isn't loaded, all you have to do is open the box and and show them the slide rather than having to hold the gun and rack the slide back showing the ticket agent the chamber on line like a fool scaring everyone behind you.
I've done this many times this way and one ticket agent thanked me one time for having everything disassembled and making it easy for him to verify.
Magazines must be empty and can be placed in the box with the gun. Ammo must be separate and in original boxing or those plastic reloader, eggshell type aftermarket boxes.
They need to inspect that the gun or magazines isn't loaded at the ticket counter.
Tip. Remove the slide from the lower beforehand at home so that when you are required to show them that it isn't loaded, all you have to do is open the box and and show them the slide rather than having to hold the gun and rack the slide back showing the ticket agent the chamber on line like a fool scaring everyone behind you.
I've done this many times this way and one ticket agent thanked me one time for having everything disassembled and making it easy for him to verify.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
What Will said and call the airlines and ask them too .. if the case has SIG on it or can be seen as oh this is a gun case .. i wouldn't .. i'd use a genric case
no name brands on them ..
international travel .. and she won't fly into NY LOL ..
no name brands on them ..
international travel .. and she won't fly into NY LOL ..
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
I use a chamber flag.
I also have a small clam shell locking box. I put that box in the checked bag.
It is real easy.
What airport in ny?
I also have a small clam shell locking box. I put that box in the checked bag.
It is real easy.
What airport in ny?
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
You do not need ccw in america to have a pistol.
I dont think nevada recognizes ny ccw. But you can still posses the pistol in nevada.
Your pistol cannot be loaded, your magazines can be but they cannot be inserted in the pistol. You are limited to 11 pounds of ammo as well.
I normally bring 4 loaded magazines and a 50 round box of ammo when I travel, they are locked in the same box as the pistol and I have never had any issues traveling anywhere I fly. I did have one ticket counter lady ask me if the ammo was in the origional package once. I told her yes. It doesn't have to be in the origional package though. TSA checks your stuff the airline doesn't.
You don't need a pistol permit in Nevada to possess hand guns. flying to free America with handguns is relatively easy, just pack them in your check bag and go. Flying to the PRNY is different, "no soup for you" unless you have permission from the Dear Leader's goon squad.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It depends on the airport. In Stewart airport, the ticket agent checks your firearm and after putting the tag into your gun case, they put it into the conveyor belt behind them.
In Orlando, the ticket agent also checks your stuff and after putting the tag into your gun case, they carry it to a special machine to be x-rayed.
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
Transporting Firearms and Ammunition
This says you can use any type of hardside case with any kind of lock... but most Pro-Gun sites recommend a Pelican-type case and the beefiest locks you can afford. (NOT TSA LOCKS) It may be a good idea to pack extra locks as well; there have been horror stories of locks being cut on the way out, and then you have no locks for the return flight.
Flying with Firearms – The (RKBA) Friendly Skies
It took me a lot of searching but I finally found this blog from years ago -
Packing & the Friendly Skies
Unfortunately it hasn't been updated in two years but should still be somewhat accurate. Be advised I've read Delta now uses industrial zip ties on any firearm-declared luggage (against Federal law/regulation). You can bring medical shears with your carry-on to cut it.
I just flew to Las Vegas two weeks ago and came back last week. I was originally going to bring my M&P Shield, but I was seeing a lot of shows and didn't want to be turned away at admission due to security etc; especially when I was with a lot of family. (some of whom are anti-gun) My return flight had a layover at JFK, but I *think* as long as you don't claim the luggage you are fine. I don't yet have another state's CCW license, but I would have gotten one had I planned to carry.
When I flew to England last year and returned, my checked luggage was 'lost' on the return flight. It was later found and home-delivered to me 2 days after I got back. (apparently 99+% of lost luggage is eventually found and returned) Worked out, but if I were checking a firearm I'd probably want one of those luggage trackers... no clue what is currently the best.
edit: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/01/10/packing-friendly-skies-2/
This says you can use any type of hardside case with any kind of lock... but most Pro-Gun sites recommend a Pelican-type case and the beefiest locks you can afford. (NOT TSA LOCKS) It may be a good idea to pack extra locks as well; there have been horror stories of locks being cut on the way out, and then you have no locks for the return flight.
Flying with Firearms – The (RKBA) Friendly Skies
It took me a lot of searching but I finally found this blog from years ago -
Packing & the Friendly Skies
Unfortunately it hasn't been updated in two years but should still be somewhat accurate. Be advised I've read Delta now uses industrial zip ties on any firearm-declared luggage (against Federal law/regulation). You can bring medical shears with your carry-on to cut it.
I just flew to Las Vegas two weeks ago and came back last week. I was originally going to bring my M&P Shield, but I was seeing a lot of shows and didn't want to be turned away at admission due to security etc; especially when I was with a lot of family. (some of whom are anti-gun) My return flight had a layover at JFK, but I *think* as long as you don't claim the luggage you are fine. I don't yet have another state's CCW license, but I would have gotten one had I planned to carry.
When I flew to England last year and returned, my checked luggage was 'lost' on the return flight. It was later found and home-delivered to me 2 days after I got back. (apparently 99+% of lost luggage is eventually found and returned) Worked out, but if I were checking a firearm I'd probably want one of those luggage trackers... no clue what is currently the best.
edit: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/01/10/packing-friendly-skies-2/
Why then does NV have a permit and reciprocity process? Not being argumentative but why even have a permitting process if it’s not needed?
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
Nevada does not require a permit to purchase, possess or to open carry. They require a permit only to carry concealed.
If you have a nonresident permit from Florida or from Utah, is is now valid in Nevada as of July 1, 2016.
Because free America believes you have a right to be armed. NY has residents brainwashed into believing only people that have been vetted by the state are the only ones who should have handguns is a national norm. It is not, Never has been nor should it ever be.
You have declare you have an unloaded firearm at the counter at all airports. It used to be ( early 90s) that you showed your handgun to the ticketing agent, I have not shown a ticket agent my pistol or the case the pistol was in since 95. Although, I have not been to either of the airports you mention. The ticket agent gives you a declaration to put in your bag and puts a special handling tag on your bag, (Ever since the shooting at the Florida baggage claim) that makes you pick up your baggage from a handler at the destination airport. Then they put it on a conveyer and the TSA checks it behind the wall.
PDX is the only airport I have been to where the TSA checks your luggage infront of you I am sure there are a few others that do this however I have not checked in at them.
At most airports When checking a firearm if you do not have TSA locks on your luggage, (Not the case that has your gun in it) you will be asked to leave it unlocked or be called back by the TSA to unlock it.
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Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
At ROC, I was just asked if the firearm was unloaded. No need to demonstrate. Was told if I made an error and it was loaded, it was all on me. Case was tagged with declaration, placed back in the luggage, and the luggage on the conveyor.
At SLC, I've had to remove my handgun from the case and demonstrate that it was unloaded. After demonstrating that the firearm was unloaded, I was asked to relock the case , affix the declaration tag, and put it back in my luggage. Once the luggage was secured, they took it and placed it on the conveyor.
Similar experience at BOS, but they made me remove the ammo from the hardsided case and place it in a separate locked hardsided case in my luggage. Luggage then went on the conveyor.
At BUF, the ticket agent called over a Transit Authority police officer to inspect the firearm, and he promptly began harassing me about a permit. It was mostly puffing on his part. Once everyone was happy, the luggage went on the conveyor.
At SEA and ATL, I had to demonstrate that the firearm was unloaded, relock the case, tag it, and place it back in my luggage. Then I had to take the luggage to the TSA inspection point and stand there while they inspected my bag in front of me. Once the all clear was given, I could go on my way.
When I travel with handguns, I now travel with two hard-sided cases. One contains just the firearm(s). The actions are opened and cable locks are inserted through the action and magwell. This is usually appreciated by the ticket agent when they look over the firearm(s). The other case contains (unloaded) magazines, ammo in factory boxes, and anything else that I cant or don't' want to carry on (i.e. pocketknives, some electronics, etc).
Every airport and airline has subtle nuances in how they do things. I've found that the best thing to do is to just be patient and roll with it unless they're telling you to do something that is flagrantly in violation of state or federal law. On occasion, you may even need to help them walk through the process.
At SLC, I've had to remove my handgun from the case and demonstrate that it was unloaded. After demonstrating that the firearm was unloaded, I was asked to relock the case , affix the declaration tag, and put it back in my luggage. Once the luggage was secured, they took it and placed it on the conveyor.
Similar experience at BOS, but they made me remove the ammo from the hardsided case and place it in a separate locked hardsided case in my luggage. Luggage then went on the conveyor.
At BUF, the ticket agent called over a Transit Authority police officer to inspect the firearm, and he promptly began harassing me about a permit. It was mostly puffing on his part. Once everyone was happy, the luggage went on the conveyor.
At SEA and ATL, I had to demonstrate that the firearm was unloaded, relock the case, tag it, and place it back in my luggage. Then I had to take the luggage to the TSA inspection point and stand there while they inspected my bag in front of me. Once the all clear was given, I could go on my way.
When I travel with handguns, I now travel with two hard-sided cases. One contains just the firearm(s). The actions are opened and cable locks are inserted through the action and magwell. This is usually appreciated by the ticket agent when they look over the firearm(s). The other case contains (unloaded) magazines, ammo in factory boxes, and anything else that I cant or don't' want to carry on (i.e. pocketknives, some electronics, etc).
Every airport and airline has subtle nuances in how they do things. I've found that the best thing to do is to just be patient and roll with it unless they're telling you to do something that is flagrantly in violation of state or federal law. On occasion, you may even need to help them walk through the process.
Carrying a second hard case is a pretty good idea. I fly all over the country and have not encountered what you have gone through yet, I will add a second hard case to my bag now just in case I run into what you have been through. Which airline made you separate the ammo?
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
Believe it or not, ALL of the above experiences were with just one airline - JetBlue. Just goes to show that how things get done are really up to the individual agent and location. And for what it's worth, their declaration tags are just a standard paperboard hang tag. They are not radio opaque like pretty much every other airline's tags are. Since they don't show up on xray, this has led to more inspections of my luggage behind the wall. I've raised this to JBU customer service several times and continue to get blown off.
The other thing that I have done to make the whole experience easier is to get all my cable locks, trigger locks, and padlocks for traveling keyed alike. It saves a LOT of time and hassle digging for the proper keys. I also keep an extra set of padlocks in the second hard case. This way, if some TSA idiot has to cut the locks on one of my cases (despite my name and cell phone number being on the side of the case), I can resecure them right away.
I only fly Delta and American so it may just be an airline procedure difference. The last time I flew coming out of Kileen TX was the only time I have been asked if the ammo was in the original packaging.
smithy
22lr
I just talked to a friend, Kennedy and Laguardia are good, Stewart is better
alistair
6.5 Creedmoor
Next week I am flying to Texas - I was not planning to check any baggage in the hold of the plane. How do I travel with my gun?
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
just put it up your butt .. good to go ..
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
@Acer-m14 is correct. Without checked baggage as per TSA rule 14 Alpha it has to go up your butt.
Firearms
- When traveling, comply with the laws concerning possession of firearms as they vary by local, state and international governments.
- If you are traveling internationally with a firearm in checked baggage, please check the U.S. Customs and Border Protection website for information and requirements prior to travel.
- Declare each firearm each time you present it for transport as checked baggage. Ask your airline about limitations or fees that may apply.
- Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. As defined by 49 CFR 1540.5 a loaded firearm has a live round of ammunition, or any component thereof, in the chamber or cylinder or in a magazine inserted in the firearm. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock unless TSA personnel request the key to open the firearm container to ensure compliance with TSA regulations. You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks.
- Firearm parts, including magazines, clips, bolts and firing pins, are prohibited in carry-on baggage, but may be transported in checked baggage.
- Replica firearms, including firearm replicas that are toys, may be transported in checked baggage only.
- Rifle scopes are permitted in carry-on and checked baggage.
- If flying without checked baggage, the anal cavity is the only allowable cavity to secure your unloaded firearm.
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Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
now try to fly with a 99.9% replica Glock 19 BB gun .. what is it ? LMAO
- Replica firearms, including firearm replicas that are toys, may be transported in checked baggage only.
need a photo or review
lol ..
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yeah. You missed that one until I highlighted it.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
You hand it to the pilots as you board the plane, they'll hold it for you...
HighlandLofts
6.5 Creedmoor
If you dont check it in they will not let you take it.
@alistair you have to check a bag to fly with a firearm. I have flown out of Westchester several times and each time the agent at the counter asks me to open up the luggage and case with the firearm. I always have the pistol locked and the ammo in the stock ammo box. I use my stock Kimber case, it has 2 spots for locks.
A lot depends on the airline you are flying through. I just went to Fla on Frontier out of Syr. and all I had to do was sign the unloaded declaration tag and put it with the locked case in my checked bag. This was both at Syr and ORL. My pistol was unloaded with 3 full mags in sleeves in the same locked case as the pistol.
If you have any questions go to your airlines website and check the FAQ's. They all have information on how to fly with firearms.
If you have any questions go to your airlines website and check the FAQ's. They all have information on how to fly with firearms.