MuttCat
.44 mag
I use WD-40 to clean the rubber weather stripping around the truck doors and windows. Gets all the oxidized gunk off and makes that stuff look like new.
Thoughts on Rem Oil?
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gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
WD-40 is a penetrating "oil" and may have worked on storing guns because it gets anything that can hurt it off. Completely. But it actually does what it does by drying the shit out of everything. I look at it like brake parts cleaner. And it will damage rubber by the way. But if we're just talking storage pretty much anything that keeps O2 off the guns surface will work. All the lubricating oils mentioned in this thread and even the ever popular sperm whale oil will keep your guns safe. Just gotta make sure that whatever you put on your guns stays on and doesn't dry out. For storage there's no need to overthink it. Now if we start talking about functional lubrication then that's another story.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Internet propaganda. Let's talk about actual use.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
WD-40 is not a penetrating solution or an oil at all. It is a water dispersant. Like any liquid, even water, it will lubricate till it dries. I clean M/L barrels with plain old water, when I'm done I use WD-40 to pick up any trace of water left behind, stand the gun up muzzle down till the WD is dry, no rust problems.
Robin
Robin
Justincase
6.5 Creedmoor
I use a tiny bit of Rem oil to wipe down the exterior of the guns after i clean them with other stuff.
Regarding the WD-40 article.....
I do agree that the solvent/oil combo is the best course. Beyond that I don't think it matters too much. I use Hoppes and Breakfree because they work are fairly cheap and available in just about any store that sells firearms and firearms accessories
Ballistol is a good all rounder and Slip 2000 EWL is a pretty heavy oil that is probably a better lubricant than anything I have listed above.
I have some of the EWL but when I use it I don't notice any difference over the Breakfree.
And I think applying a thin Mobil 1 high temp grease on any internal part that has worn through to bare metal is a good practice as well.
When I judiciously applied Mobil 1 to my Galil Ace I noticed the action became even smoother.
In my ARs I haven't found it to attract much carbon. Again I apply a very thin film to only specific areas. It dosen't burn or wash off like oil will. A tub lasts for years too.
I do agree that the solvent/oil combo is the best course. Beyond that I don't think it matters too much. I use Hoppes and Breakfree because they work are fairly cheap and available in just about any store that sells firearms and firearms accessories
Ballistol is a good all rounder and Slip 2000 EWL is a pretty heavy oil that is probably a better lubricant than anything I have listed above.
I have some of the EWL but when I use it I don't notice any difference over the Breakfree.
And I think applying a thin Mobil 1 high temp grease on any internal part that has worn through to bare metal is a good practice as well.
When I judiciously applied Mobil 1 to my Galil Ace I noticed the action became even smoother.
In my ARs I haven't found it to attract much carbon. Again I apply a very thin film to only specific areas. It dosen't burn or wash off like oil will. A tub lasts for years too.
Ive been running brothers and arms true blue oil ever since they gave me a free sample at shot show a couple years ago. Tried it out on my vector which is the pickiest gun I have and it loved it. Now i exclusively only clean with breakthrough and oil with true blue. Talking to alot of these lube companies made me switch from something thats a clp
Uzi
.308 Win
First of all, Wd-40 is a brand name and they offer different products for specific uses. I think what most of us are referring to in this discussion is the typical WD-40 formula you find everywhere for sale labeled as a multi use product and it's intended to be used in such a way.
After looking on the website you can find the product's own description.
WD-40 Multi-Use Product: The Can With Thousands of Uses!
"WD-40® Multi-Use Product is the gold standard in utility. WD-40®Brand is a multi-purpose penetrating oil that protects metal from rust and corrosion, loosens rusted and stuck parts, displaces moisture, lubricates hinges and doors, and even removes grease, grime, and more from most surfaces. For a powerfully versatile penetrating oil with more than 2,000 uses, count on the blue and yellow WD-40® Brand can to help you live life hands on."
All "penetrating" oil means is super thin viscosity so it seeps through pores and cracks easily.
Uzi
.308 Win
Okay?
There just seems to so much argument over what WD-40 is.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Who cares what WD-40 does or what it was intended for. I could care less if it was made as a sexual lubricant originally. It cleans guns and has been cleaning guns and keeping them in working order for years. It didn't all of a sudden stop working because Rem Oil came out.
WD-40 is not the best stuff to use though. It's good as a solvent but it's too thin to be a good lubricant. I think Ballistol does everything WD-40 can and also the things it can't.
I find it odd you poo-poo Breakfree while espousing a product that isn't really intended as a gun oil.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I used to use breakfree followed by Mobil One after reading about it working better and being cheaper. What I found was when forced to use WD-40 one day, cleaning was easier with it. It also lubricates enough. There is no need for this excessive lubrication at all on modern firearms anyway.
Oversees we ran our AR's dry after finding out quickly what oil and sand mixed together do and they worked fine. Dry Glocks run fine as well. There are guys that hardly ever clean their Glocks. They've been running dry with carbon in them and functioning like a top.
So if these firearms work well dry, a little WD-40 lubrication isn't going to all of a sudden make them cease.
I just think that the extreme thinness of WD-40 won't allow it to form enough of a film to prevent wear. I'd be concerned about premature parts wear. But maybe not I dunno.
We all have our little concoctions and rituals for cleaning that work for us. And we all have different environments, conditions and firing schedules. I don't get to the range as much as I'dike but when I do go I shoot a lot. My cleaning regimen therfore reflects periods of disuse punctuated by periods of heavy or even extreme use.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
If I invented a product that was formulated expressly for water displacement I would market it as a be all and end all for problem solving.
WD-40 Multi-Use Product: The Can With Thousands of Uses!
Pretty smart!
Robin
WD-40 Multi-Use Product: The Can With Thousands of Uses!
Pretty smart!
Robin
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
That's the thing. Carbon is a lubricant. The sooner you discover this the less you clean your guns.
@thewheels
.308 Win
I have half a can of Rem oil from way back when. Used it and Hoppes until I switched to Breakfree. After using Breakfree, I'm pretty sure I'll not use either again.
I use Breakfree almost exclusively now and Pro Shot copper solvent in my barrels. Also intermittently use Gun Scrubber for certain applications.
I use Breakfree almost exclusively now and Pro Shot copper solvent in my barrels. Also intermittently use Gun Scrubber for certain applications.
https://lifehacker.com/when-should-i-not-use-wd-40-5891936
[URL='https://lifehacker.com/when-should-i-not-use-wd-40-5891936']When Should I Not Use WD-40?
Adam Pash
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WD-40 was first used by the military in the '50s to clean up Atlas missile parts. Today, it's used by people everywhere to clean up virtually everything in need of a gleam. But don't go spraying the stuff just anywhere. WD-40 can cause more harm than good to certain household items. The DIY enthusiasts at Stack Exchange chime in.
Photo by Jorge Barrios.
Question:
It seems like WD-40 can be used to lubricate just about any moving metal part. But is this true? Are there instances when WD-40 can be harmful?
— sharptooth (originally asked here)
Answer: Hold Up...
WD-40 isn't actually a true lubricant. WD stands for "water displacing" and its main use is as a solvent or rust dissolver.
The lubricant-like properties of WD-40 come not from the substance itself, but from dissolving components. And the effect doesn't last.
WD-40 can be a good substance to start with — it can help clean up rust or other grime. But depending on what you're working with, you should probably follow up WD-40 with use of a true lubricant such as one based on silicone, grease, Teflon, or graphite.
— Answered by Cody C
Accepted Answer: Firearms, Drive Chains & Gears
View attachment upload_2019-4-30_11-18-17.gif
Firearms - You should never use WD-40 to clean or maintain firearms. WD-40 is hygroscopic and will attract moisture to the firearm which will result in rust.
View attachment upload_2019-4-30_11-18-17.gif
Drive chains of any type - Because WD-40 isn't a lubricant, it really will not work well on drive chains of any type.
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[URL='https://lifehacker.com/when-should-i-not-use-wd-40-5891936']When Should I Not Use WD-40?
Adam Pash
3/09/12 4:00pm
Filed to: CROWDHACKER
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WD-40 was first used by the military in the '50s to clean up Atlas missile parts. Today, it's used by people everywhere to clean up virtually everything in need of a gleam. But don't go spraying the stuff just anywhere. WD-40 can cause more harm than good to certain household items. The DIY enthusiasts at Stack Exchange chime in.
Photo by Jorge Barrios.
Question:
It seems like WD-40 can be used to lubricate just about any moving metal part. But is this true? Are there instances when WD-40 can be harmful?
— sharptooth (originally asked here)
Answer: Hold Up...
WD-40 isn't actually a true lubricant. WD stands for "water displacing" and its main use is as a solvent or rust dissolver.
The lubricant-like properties of WD-40 come not from the substance itself, but from dissolving components. And the effect doesn't last.
WD-40 can be a good substance to start with — it can help clean up rust or other grime. But depending on what you're working with, you should probably follow up WD-40 with use of a true lubricant such as one based on silicone, grease, Teflon, or graphite.
— Answered by Cody C
Accepted Answer: Firearms, Drive Chains & Gears
View attachment upload_2019-4-30_11-18-17.gif
Firearms - You should never use WD-40 to clean or maintain firearms. WD-40 is hygroscopic and will attract moisture to the firearm which will result in rust.
View attachment upload_2019-4-30_11-18-17.gif
Drive chains of any type - Because WD-40 isn't a lubricant, it really will not work well on drive chains of any type.
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One question. How can a substance be both water displacing and hydroscopic at the same time?https://lifehacker.com/when-should-i-not-use-wd-40-5891936
When Should I Not Use WD-40?
Adam Pash
3/09/12 4:00pm
Filed to: CROWDHACKER
529.5K
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WD-40 was first used by the military in the '50s to clean up Atlas missile parts. Today, it's used by people everywhere to clean up virtually everything in need of a gleam. But don't go spraying the stuff just anywhere. WD-40 can cause more harm than good to certain household items. The DIY enthusiasts at Stack Exchange chime in.
Photo by Jorge Barrios.
Question:
It seems like WD-40 can be used to lubricate just about any moving metal part. But is this true? Are there instances when WD-40 can be harmful?
— sharptooth (originally asked here)
Answer: Hold Up...
WD-40 isn't actually a true lubricant. WD stands for "water displacing" and its main use is as a solvent or rust dissolver.
The lubricant-like properties of WD-40 come not from the substance itself, but from dissolving components. And the effect doesn't last.
WD-40 can be a good substance to start with — it can help clean up rust or other grime. But depending on what you're working with, you should probably follow up WD-40 with use of a true lubricant such as one based on silicone, grease, Teflon, or graphite.
— Answered by Cody C
Accepted Answer: Firearms, Drive Chains & Gears
View attachment 45108
Firearms - You should never use WD-40 to clean or maintain firearms. WD-40 is hygroscopic and will attract moisture to the firearm which will result in rust.
View attachment 45109
Drive chains of any type - Because WD-40 isn't a lubricant, it really will not work well on drive chains of any type.
So the WD-40 is absorbing as opposed to repelling the moisture? The term displacing is rather misleading in that case.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That's just an opinion blog written by someone. If you go to the WD40 website itself, it says right on there in plain English that it's safe and effective for firearms.https://lifehacker.com/when-should-i-not-use-wd-40-5891936
When Should I Not Use WD-40?
Adam Pash
3/09/12 4:00pm
Filed to: CROWDHACKER
529.5K
1664
WD-40 was first used by the military in the '50s to clean up Atlas missile parts. Today, it's used by people everywhere to clean up virtually everything in need of a gleam. But don't go spraying the stuff just anywhere. WD-40 can cause more harm than good to certain household items. The DIY enthusiasts at Stack Exchange chime in.
Photo by Jorge Barrios.
Question:
It seems like WD-40 can be used to lubricate just about any moving metal part. But is this true? Are there instances when WD-40 can be harmful?
— sharptooth (originally asked here)
Answer: Hold Up...
WD-40 isn't actually a true lubricant. WD stands for "water displacing" and its main use is as a solvent or rust dissolver.
The lubricant-like properties of WD-40 come not from the substance itself, but from dissolving components. And the effect doesn't last.
WD-40 can be a good substance to start with — it can help clean up rust or other grime. But depending on what you're working with, you should probably follow up WD-40 with use of a true lubricant such as one based on silicone, grease, Teflon, or graphite.
— Answered by Cody C
Accepted Answer: Firearms, Drive Chains & Gears
View attachment 45108
Firearms - You should never use WD-40 to clean or maintain firearms. WD-40 is hygroscopic and will attract moisture to the firearm which will result in rust.
View attachment 45109
Drive chains of any type - Because WD-40 isn't a lubricant, it really will not work well on drive chains of any type.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Another good use I have found, when engraving steel parts it is hard to see the pattern that I draw, but a little WD on the metal and my #2 pencil drawing like stands out nice, I believe the little lubrication I get from it makes the graver track a bit smoother as well.
Robin
Robin
So you are just gonna take the company adcopy at face value? Of course it's safe, its gonna cause the thing to blow up but it's not the best thing to use for this application. Spray a little in your hand, then dab a little Ballistol in your hand, you will feel a difference in viscosity. Even more so with Breakfree. For lubrication you want a heavier weight oil, the more viscosity the better it protects. Also the more drag it causes so all things in balance but given that only a thin film is need in the first place drag isn't really a factor.
For all the things you like WD-40 for I think you would be better served by Ballistol. It's pretty decent at dealing with carbon fouling and it lubes well. Since its water soluble though of the gun gets wet it's best to wipe down and reapply.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No. I'm taking value at actual usage. My point was that anyone in the internet can say whatever they want.
Millions of people use WD-40 for their firearms. I have seen no ill effects firsthand with my father's guns and my own.
Case in point
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yes I'm on the internet. I guess I can video myself cleaning with them and video myself shooting them for next 10 years and post it but those posts will be on the internet.