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Very complex scenario my ass.
Homeowner Arrested After Shooting Burglars With Illegal Gun
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Very complex scenario my ass.
Hillbilly77
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
They won't do that again.
They won't do that again.
Hmnnn…..
Why not just leave them in there ?
After a week with the racoons they'd be nothing left.
ECU Pirates
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Quick let’s call that divorce lawyer from Syracuse! Haha
Toecutter
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Toecutter
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Yeah this will get tossed, it's a threat to New Yorks illegal gun laws.
livingston
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GOYABEAN
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two more deplorable's that decided to leave 
land safe travels 
THEY BOTH DIED - HUZZAH !
Steal2B
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Some interesting points ...
Patricia Talerico had been arrested more than 20 times in the past.
Police found items belonging to Stolarczyk in another home Tuesday night. Oneida County District Attorney Scott McNamara says police are trying to determine if the two robbed Stolarczyk's home about a week ago.
MikeyCNY
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Hopefully this is just the case we need for the Supreme Court to put a whoop on the state... 10 years from now.
Doc8404
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Investigators spent the day Wednesday searching Stolarczyk’s home for evidence. They say it’s taking longer than usual because it appears Stolarczyk is a hoarder.
“The home does not have electricity. It does not have running water. I don't think it's a place anybody should be living. That all makes this very complicated,” said McNamara.
Stolarczyk is being held at the Oneida County Justice Center. He was arraigned on the gun charge Wednesday afternoon.
“The home does not have electricity. It does not have running water. I don't think it's a place anybody should be living. That all makes this very complicated,” said McNamara.
Stolarczyk is being held at the Oneida County Justice Center. He was arraigned on the gun charge Wednesday afternoon.
Acer-m14
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now they will drop the gun charge and hit him with a DEC law for peein and poopin on the lawn ( undocumented outhouse ) .
GOYABEAN
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Don't forget he'll end up being evicted to boot
Acer-m14
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and totally legal to pay for a campsite for the whole summer and live in a tent
LOL ..
carpediem
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Now the family of the criminals says they were " victims of gun violence"! My ass. They were victims of their own poor decisions and being general thieving scumbags. Cry me a river....
'It's either them or me': Homeowner's attorney speaks out on Deerfield fatal shooting and Talerico family responds
'It's either them or me': Homeowner's attorney speaks out on Deerfield fatal shooting and Talerico family responds
Acer-m14
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omg the comments there LOL ..
Acer-m14
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Now the family of the criminals says they were " victims of gun violence"
good thing he didn't beat them to death with skillet .. how would we cook bacon n eggs after the ban ..
good thing he didn't beat them to death with skillet .. how would we cook bacon n eggs after the ban ..
Blimey
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This is a reasonable charge, given NY laws.
Most importantly there is no mention of him being charged with any crime related to actually defending himself. Now if this were the case of somebody temporarily borrowing an unregistered gun (e.g. registered to his dad and his dad left for vacation and he temporarily takes custody to defend himself), I would have a huge problem with that. But instead what happened is this event just shone light on the fact he had illegally owned this for a long period of time.
I don't see it as a SCOTUS issue. This case has nothing to do, seemingly to me, with him actually defending himself.
Most importantly there is no mention of him being charged with any crime related to actually defending himself. Now if this were the case of somebody temporarily borrowing an unregistered gun (e.g. registered to his dad and his dad left for vacation and he temporarily takes custody to defend himself), I would have a huge problem with that. But instead what happened is this event just shone light on the fact he had illegally owned this for a long period of time.
I don't see it as a SCOTUS issue. This case has nothing to do, seemingly to me, with him actually defending himself.
Doc8404
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Love the comments. And Mo Athari is an attorney.
Idiots
Idiots
Doc8404
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And the homeowner shouldn’t have talked to the trooper IMO.
BDinPutnam
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No, it doesn't, but you just pissed in everyone's cheerios.
It wasnt his gun, he wasnt a prohibited person, and he could have either gotten it registered and papered or gone out and gotten a long gun with none of the hassle.
Not going to the big court, sorry guys.
It's a potential case because NYS laws are in contradiction to federal ruling. The whole not being able to own a hand gun without a permit isn't 100% kosher. But I do agree it's a long shot.
Talking to the troopers like he has is very likely why he is only charged with the "illegal" gun possession, which would have been immediately obvious to them anyway once his name was run. The only reason he hasn't been charged with the perps' deaths is because he told a story consistent with currently available facts.
How would he have been better off clamming up which would have DEFINITELY meant more initial charges?
If it wasn't his gun, whose was it?
If he inherited it, it is his gun. Heller applies.
if it belonged to someone living in the house, Heller still applies.
If he stole it, then he should be charged.
Marine Cpl
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EXCLUSIVE: Mark Wolber Represents Homeowner Ron Stolarczyk After Killing Two Burglars in Deerfield
His attorney in the above podcast. It was his dad’s legally registered gun who past away.
His attorney in the above podcast. It was his dad’s legally registered gun who past away.
BDinPutnam
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Heller leaves the door wide the hell open for registration of handguns. It was not his gun. It was his deceased father's gun.
I dont like it but that's the way it works and it is compatible with Heller.
ECU Pirates
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You don’t know that it would mean more initial
Charges. A lawyer can talk for/with you. It’s never a good idea to talk without legal representation after any shooting (justified or not). I also have a feeling more charges are coming. Why rush it? Once they go through that disgusting house (he’s a hoarder) they will have more.
Didn't Heller declare that ownership of a handgun in the home for the purpose of self defense was a Right? Whether registered or not, that would imply that he was able to own the gun, thus it was (or should not have been) "illegal". Or did Heller say it was a Right only when the .gov said you could own it through registration?
And if it was his deceased father's gun, it is therefore HIS gun due to inheritance.