California Becomes the First State to Enact Total Lead Bullet Hunting Ban

misunderestimated · Jun 4, 2019

WTF OK I just can't take it no more, the place is burning down because of improper management of forest, there streets are full of homeless and they are are worried about the few hunters left and a lead bullet

Deplorable Me · Jun 4, 2019

Small game hunting is totally screwed. Do they even make a non lead .22 rimfire? How about non lead shot shells in 20 gauge or .410?

Bustedknees · Jun 4, 2019

Deplorable Me said:
Small game hunting is totally screwed. Do they even make a non lead .22 rimfire? How about non lead shot shells in 20 gauge or .410?

All kinds of it for 20 gauge..

Saltwater60 · Jun 4, 2019

California is so screwed it’s not even funny. This will come to nys next.

S&W Fan · Jun 4, 2019

Deplorable Me said:
Small game hunting is totally screwed. Do they even make a non lead .22 rimfire? How about non lead shot shells in 20 gauge or .410?

Haven’t ever seen anything for .22LR but there has been for quite awhile now steel and tungsten shot available in most shot shell calibers. I believe there may he copper available too.

Celt · Jun 4, 2019

Saltwater60 said:
California is so screwed it’s not even funny. This will come to nys next.

Como will not be outdone in how anti gun and "progressive" he is. You can bet this is coming here.

S&W Fan · Jun 4, 2019

Celt said:
Como will not be outdone in how anti gun and "progressive" he is. You can bet this is coming here.

I’m not so sure about that. Hunting revenue is still a big chunk of change for this state and greedy little andy knows that. If he / DEC impose this too soon , along with the declining licenses they will take a big hit in the pocket book for sure. That’s something he really can’t afford to do, yet.

Celt · Jun 4, 2019

S&W Fan said:
I’m not so sure about that. Hunting revenue is still a big chunk of change for this state and greedy little andy knows that. If he / DEC impose this too soon , along with the declining licenses they will take a big hit in the pocket book for sure. That’s something he really can’t afford to do, yet.

Could be, but I dont trust him.

Acer-m14 · Jun 5, 2019

GOYABEAN said:
California is set to become the first state to ban the use of lead bullets for all hunting activities

but still ok to shoot people with lead bullets ..

Acer-m14 · Jun 5, 2019

wood bullets .. if they leave the muzzle at 1500 to 2000 fps .. ummm your dead .. LOL ..

spat · Jun 5, 2019

Acer-m14 said:
wood bullets .. if they leave the muzzle at 1500 to 2000 fps .. ummm your dead .. LOL ..

Those for vampires ?

Should be a lot cheaper than the silver ones for werewolves.

Jezman · Jun 5, 2019

I thought there was a case in the courts which prevented that from happening?

MoMan · Jun 5, 2019

S&W Fan said:
I’m not so sure about that. Hunting revenue is still a big chunk of change for this state and greedy little andy knows that. If he / DEC impose this too soon , along with the declining licenses they will take a big hit in the pocket book for sure. That’s something he really can’t afford to do, yet.

cumho doesn't normally think things through when it comes to being "out done" as the most socialist state.
Besides, if he had his way, nobody would be hunting, at least not with a firearm. If he could, he would have his subjects hunting with spears!!

S&W Fan · Jun 5, 2019

Celt said:
Could be, but I dont trust him.

Either do I. I’m sure it’s just a matter of time.

S&W Fan · Jun 5, 2019

Acer-m14 said:
wood bullets .. if they leave the muzzle at 1500 to 2000 fps .. ummm your dead .. LOL ..

I’ve seen those somewhere before. I believe they are called wood fragmentation bullets.

S&W Fan · Jun 5, 2019

MoMan said:
cumho doesn't normally think things through when it comes to being "out done" as the most socialist state.
Besides, if he had his way, nobody would be hunting, at least not with a firearm. If he could, he would have his subjects hunting with spears!!

He’ll Never be the architect of such a measure. I’m sure it will be some fucking bleeding heart socialist down state legislator with ties to PETA who drafts the bill. Cumhole will have no problem signing it though.

BDinPutnam · Jun 5, 2019

MoMan said:
cumho doesn't normally think things through when it comes to being "out done" as the most socialist state.
Besides, if he had his way, nobody would be hunting, at least not with a firearm. If he could, he would have his subjects hunting with spears!!

Torches and pitchforks would be more appropriate.

S&W Fan · Jun 5, 2019

BDinPutnam said:
Torches and pitchforks would be more appropriate.

one of many reasons for why I keep up on my skills with traditional archery equipment. It may come to that one day and not necessarily for the reasons we’re lamenting about here.

Jmac00 · Jun 5, 2019

does this mean the cops will have to stop using lead too?

Blimey · Jun 5, 2019

CA is like NY. Beautiful state but being hurt by its politics.

Meanwhile I was at Venice beach last month and it is fucking disgusting now. It is awash with homeless people and camps everywhere, smells like weed, piss, and shit.

Criticalt · Jun 5, 2019

This last big game season was the first time I used Steelhead shotgun slugs with steel slugs. They were only $6 for a box of 5 and they killed 2 deer very dead.

Heres my thoughts.......
Is this law only for hunting and not target?
While hunting you may fire 1 or 2 slugs or maybe 10-15 shot shells on a lucky day of bird hunting. And, these shots are spread over a large area usually. Plus, most of the lead is still in the animal.
Many people fire dozens of slugs and shot shells while target shooting......all in one area.
Alot of lead in one area is far more damaging than the scattered lead from hunting.
Just a stupid, pointless law.

BDinPutnam · Jun 6, 2019

Criticalt said:
This last big game season was the first time I used Steelhead shotgun slugs with steel slugs. They were only $6 for a box of 5 and they killed 2 deer very dead.

Heres my thoughts.......
Is this law only for hunting and not target?
While hunting you may fire 1 or 2 slugs or maybe 10-15 shot shells on a lucky day of bird hunting. And, these shots are spread over a large area usually. Plus, most of the lead is still in the animal.
Many people fire dozens of slugs and shot shells while target shooting......all in one area.
Alot of lead in one area is far more damaging than the scattered lead from hunting.
Just a stupid, pointless law.

Like gun control generally- it isn't about lead, it's about control.

wizrd · Jun 7, 2019

Just keep quiet about this - no one tell Cuomo - that's the only way he would find out, - I know that damned dimwit can't read.

libertysnake · Jun 7, 2019

If Cuomo bans lead bullets, then the fudds might finally wake up. Also, it would piss off a lot of people that seasonally hunt upstate, but live in Long Island or places down near the city.

Acer-m14 · Jun 7, 2019

libertysnake said:
If Cuomo bans lead bullets, then the fudds might finally wake up

it would have to be a ban just on lead .. have to get the trap and skeet fudd's .. all them high dollar shotguns and over under's .. can't shoot steel shot with out damaging the barrel ..

spat · Jun 7, 2019

Someone should start selling shells in CA with plastic shot as a "replacement"

I realize the ballistics would suck and nobody would actually use them, but their mere existence would piss off the people who banned plastic straws.

Should be pretty easy to load up a bunch of airsoft BBs.

Plus they'll waste their time banning them and maybe leave something useful alone for a few months.

Acer-m14 · Jun 7, 2019

spat said:
Someone should start selling shells in CA with plastic shot as a "replacement"

I realize the ballistics would suck and nobody would actually use them, but their mere existence would piss off the people who banned plastic straws.

Should be pretty easy to load up a bunch of airsoft BBs.

Plus they'll waste their time banning them and maybe leave something useful alone for a few months.

and use Black Powder for the powder .. then when they start bitching .. they can get called RACIST !! .. LOL ..

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