SCOTUS decides not to hear suppressor case

Edwardteach72

Edwardteach72

.475 A&M Magnum
U.S. Military
Messages
14,883
Reaction score
15,065
Location
New York
Involving a man who was arrested (one of 3 I believe) with an "unregistered" suppressor he bought in Kansas where the state passed a law that anything made in the state and sold in the state and stayed in the state was not subject to federal gun regulations such as the NFA..

Well the state said hahaha have some alphabet bois and the ATF arrested this guy for having a suppressor.


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...fer&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ttagfeed
 
F

fresch

.338 Win Mag
Messages
6,610
Reaction score
8,497
Location
Syracuse
We can't find thousands of emails, stop border crossings, or any other useful thing BUT, we can find and charge on one item, a suppressor. Kind of like no need to stop real crime when we can make more money pulling people over trying to get to work.
 
C3D

C3D

.308 Win
Messages
4,416
Reaction score
7,867
Location
Behind Enemy Lines
Only with the most of luck can we get a decision out of the SCOTUS that the 2nd Amendment applies outside of the home.

To get SCOTUS to tell us that a suppressor is covered is a pipe dream.
 
M_F

M_F

.45 acp
Messages
267
Reaction score
278
Location
Long Island
I'm not surprised and fully expected it, our boy Kavanaugh has publicly stated that he supports the unconstitutional machine gun ban which implies that the full NFA is kosher. The "tradition" and "common use" language used in heller was a hidden decoy to keep infringing on the 2A. Our win was only a temporary delay to never ending gun bans/arbitrary regulations at the federal and state levels.
 
F

fresch

.338 Win Mag
Messages
6,610
Reaction score
8,497
Location
Syracuse
I have the same fight with the clueless,
"Do you think George Washington would tell you to take that cannon back it's illegal!".
No, because we are supposed to be as strong and ready as any invaders.
Regulated = in working order with proper stock/ ball, powder, patch.
We the people are the people who bear arms, arms = all weapons.
There were people who were happy living under the redcoat rule.
 
Shadow2

Shadow2

6.5 Creedmoor
Messages
2,390
Reaction score
2,065
Location
Westchester
Both men were sentenced to probation, If they where seeing jail time i would hope it would have been heard. So do they now have records and loose their guns?

If the state said they could have suppressors then it was up to the state to send their militia into protect their citizens rights against government over reach. You cant expect 2 guys to fight on all our behalf. A criminal who gets shot doing illegal shit gets better support from the community then these 2 guys.
 
Last edited:
Edwardteach72

Edwardteach72

.475 A&M Magnum
U.S. Military
Messages
14,883
Reaction score
15,065
Location
New York
Shadow2 said:
Both men were sentenced to probation, If they where seeing jail time i would hope it would have been heard. So do they now have records and loose their guns?

If the state said they could have suppressors then it was up to the state to send their militia into protect their citizens rights against government over reach. You cant expect 2 guys to fight on all our behalf. A criminal who gets shot doing illegal shit gets better support from the community then these 2 guys.
Click to expand...


Both received a felony conviction
 
Edwardteach72

Edwardteach72

.475 A&M Magnum
U.S. Military
Messages
14,883
Reaction score
15,065
Location
New York
Shadow2 said:
Misrepresentation
Click to expand...

They didnt misrepresent anything. They never arrested or charged or tried these guys.

Dudes bought suppressors alphabet bois caught wind of it, decided they were not happy to be missing out on their $200, went to the homes, shot some doggos (probably) arrested the guys and charged them and they delt with this all in federal court
 
Edwardteach72

Edwardteach72

.475 A&M Magnum
U.S. Military
Messages
14,883
Reaction score
15,065
Location
New York
BDinPutnam said:
Anyone who thinks a state law can over-ride a federal law has been asleep since Woodrow Wilson was President.

"Legal" weed notwithstanding.
Click to expand...

Even then there have been cases of the feds coming in and breaking up "legal" dispensaries
 
Shadow2

Shadow2

6.5 Creedmoor
Messages
2,390
Reaction score
2,065
Location
Westchester
OHHH so legal weed doesn't count that's convenient for your argument, sure you don't vote progressive, carve out those exceptions that fit your argument..

BDinPutnam said:
Anyone who thinks a state law can over-ride a federal law has been asleep since Woodrow Wilson was President.

"Legal" weed notwithstanding.
Click to expand...
 
BDinPutnam

BDinPutnam

.475 A&M Magnum
Messages
14,492
Reaction score
20,850
Location
Someplace else
ArmedCorgi said:
The enforcement of Federal laws seems to vary from administration to administration. There is no real consistency.
Click to expand...

But the one constant since Wilson (ok actually probably since Lincoln or dare I say Andrew Jackson, really) is that no State law can pre-empt or nullify a Federal law.
 
ArmedCorgi

ArmedCorgi

.475 A&M Magnum
Messages
14,425
Reaction score
22,648
Location
Utahardia
BDinPutnam said:
But the one constant since Wilson (ok actually probably since Lincoln or dare I say Andrew Jackson, really) is that no State law can pre-empt or nullify a Federal law.
Click to expand...
Not unless said federal law is passed without constitutional authority and constitutionally falls under the tenth amendment.
 
BDinPutnam

BDinPutnam

.475 A&M Magnum
Messages
14,492
Reaction score
20,850
Location
Someplace else
ArmedCorgi said:
Not unless said federal law is passed without constitutional authority and constitutionally falls under the tenth amendment.
Click to expand...

At which point that federal law fails at the federal court level.

Well, actually, in practice more like if that federal law generally doesn't pass constitutional muster.

10th amendment went away a long, long time ago.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top