spat
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Somehow I don't think you would be doing that out of respect, so no.
Trump backs bill to ban flag-burning: ‘A no brainer!’
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Amendments have to be ratified by Congress and States. The bar is very high and extremely difficult to get done. It's not going to happen.
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E the massive
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Is it ok to burn the ones made in china?
Correct.
gun_slinger_boy
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Are the flags being burned or not?
Libertarians love to say, “no government, no government, less government, less government!” When its convenient for them... for example, @Darth you are for mandatory vaccines right? Correct me if I’m wrong but I know you’ve always have been for people getting vaccinated and this includes mandatory vaccines but at the same time they say less government but now you’re involving the government. I’ve seen this numerous times on libertarian pages (which I follow on Facebook and Instagram.) I called libertarians a hypocrite for that very reason, because they say “little government” when it’s convenient for them and more government when it’s convenient for them. A healthy scepticism of the state is good, because both historically speaking and even today, the biggest oppressor of humanity is government. Even in liberal democracies, civil liberties are violated far too often.
I’ve been super super busy and today was the last day of school so I didn’t have time to message everyone back.
Look at the flag code...
gun_slinger_boy
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Lol I know what it is. Do you not remember I brought up the ceremony? The question still stands, is the flag being burned? Also you never answered about the nazi and isis flags being burned. Should that be banned as well?
Indeed I do, but I haven’t wore anything with the flag on it in a long while.
“Unless an article of clothing is made from an actual United States flag, there is NO breach of flag etiquette whatsoever. People are simply expressing their patriotism and love of country by wearing an article of clothing that happens to be red, white, and blue with stars and stripes.”
I haven’t been able to go through everything so you gotta give me time here, I’m slowly getting there and what about the Nazi and ISIS flag? People should burn them and whether or not they do or don’t doesn't matter, it’s not our nations flag, the Flag of the United States is our flag.
Wrong.
No, I'm all for people getting vaccinated. You just "made up" that second half.
Well considering you made it up for me, you most likely made it up for them too.
What does this have to do with the flag issue at all?
Celt
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What I think doc was trying to express is that if people are doing it and it's putting other people in danger and it's in violation of other laws
actually, in all fairness I think @Darth is probably one of the most consistent people and his beliefs whether it's popular opinion or not. I would not consider him hypocritical on matters such as these.
ECU Pirates
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Usually when you post a quote the source is included.
This thread is not about "flaming objects endangering citizens." That doesn't even make sense.
It's just "well, find something to charge them with then!"
"Justified shooting!? Then charge him for littering with the brass he left around!
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Celt
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well, in regards to the interaction between you and Doc, knowing him the way I do, I imagine the intent of his post about charging them with something is more than likely in a scenario where you have some of these antifa or other lunatic liberals setting flags on fire that would endanger other people or property, in which case I would also agree they should be charged with the pertinent crimes.This thread is not about "flaming objects endangering citizens." That doesn't even make sense.
It's just "well, find something to charge them with then!"
"Justified shooting!? Then charge him for littering with the brass he left around!
I couldn't imagine that he would be supporting charging them with something just for exercising their first amendment, as he did make it clear that he supports their right to do it. His post is more than likely just a lack of explanation due to typing on a phone.
FrankenCub
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As much as I despise burning the American flag, I'll support those who feel the need to do so. If I feel so compelled to burn an Islamic flag or fag flag, I'll do it without remorse.
BDinPutnam
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Since Burning the Flag is certainly free speech and all and if I was to see it Ill exercise my free speech and call your mother a whore and we shall go from there.
Depends. You could actually find yourself on the wrong side of the Fighting Words Exception.
Curmudgeon
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It's a piece of cloth. It doesnt define me or those of my ilk. I believe in tribes and at the same time revere and respect those who pledged their sacred honor for my current, albeit somewhat reduced, liberties. Their flag from back when flags and gods had a lot more meaning looked different from ours today. Somewhere, some time ago there was an arbitrary decision about it's design that doest concern me.
Doc8404
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I agree. He’s consistently petulant.
Curmudgeon
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I think what @Darth is saying, in his way, is that this country was founded primarily on the value of individual liberty, not blind worship to anything, including a flag, or a piece of paper, or a person, either real or imagined. Whether anyone likes it or not, that's who we are. If you were in the military - thanks. I hope you fought for more than a flag or a person. You fight for each and every one of us to say whatever the fuck we want. Even if that means we say your service isnt what we want or hope for.
My take: Individualism is what this country is all about. Fuck collectivism in any form.
Oh, and fuck Behr Deckover as well.
And when something is blatantly against the ideals of this country and constitution, just because Trump said it doesn’t make it any less wrong.
Your true colors show when you do go the “well, just find something else to charge them with” route.
Curmudgeon
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What do you expect from a guy who loves Walther's and gets tied up and pissed on by halfway decent looking women?
Much love @Darth
Curmudgeon
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BTW... you sound like a native... took-um-bridge