Sen. Lindsey Graham bipartisan deal on 'red-flag' gun laws

Any big points? I will try to read it later.

Big reveal!

The second amendment is not negotiable.

Twogunwilly said:

The second amendment is not negotiable.

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It most certainly is negotiable and even for sale, according to some people! We must make sure that the sale price is much higher then they are willing to pay!

And it's only the beginning the far left have found a sweet spot and will continue hitting it and just wait till there's a demoturd president in office because the shit will hit the fan regarding 2A or any other freedom's

This has much larger dealings than just the Second Amendment.

Since yesterday, I have looked up and researched more and more on Reg Flag policies of the 15 or so States that have them. As of yesterday, I was leaning more toward not liking these policies. After a bunch of reading, it seems that most of the States have taken too many liberties with their wording. I am officially against these policies and laws.

I figured I would have been, but really wanted to know as much as possible.

A couple more mass shootings and all that will be legal is sling shots without the wrist strap.

Well whenever you see these wackjobs in the media talking shit and making threatening insinuating remarks, red flag the fuckers, it's anonymous right ?

dubleuhb said:

Well whenever you see these wackjobs in the media talking shit and making threatening insinuating remarks, red flag the fuckers, it's anonymous right ?

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No. It is not.

This was already a problem for gun owners. Now they will make confiscation easier. We were better off with Obama in the White House and partisan Congress opposing any gun legislation. Worked very well. Why even bother to vote.

GOPerfect said:

No. It is not.

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Well I'm just being a good citizen and thought I was doing the right thing.

dubleuhb said:

Well I'm just being a good citizen and thought I was doing the right thing.

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I would love to do the same thing.

Seizing the firearms from "problem" people will be made easy.

Citizens' petitioning to get their property back will be very difficult.

This will be ripe for Leftist abuse and may be the legal version of "swatting."

A large step into the abyss.

So in the realm of negotiating a "better world" let me propose the following. For each state that passes a red flag law regarding firearms, let's be fair and propose an equal number of "white flag" laws which allow the mental capacity of politicians to be assessed and reviewed. Should these politicians be found to be less than fit to perform the duties of their office, then they should be removed immediately from said office. This review process will be of the same substance as that of red flag laws. The "professional" assessor will be chosen without their input and influence.

Seems only fair.

GOPerfect said:

This has much larger dealings than just the Second Amendment.

Since yesterday, I have looked up and researched more and more on Reg Flag policies of the 15 or so States that have them. As of yesterday, I was leaning more toward not liking these policies. After a bunch of reading, it seems that most of the States have taken too many liberties with their wording. I am officially against these policies and laws.

I figured I would have been, but really wanted to know as much as possible.

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These laws allow the removal of a constitutional right without a conviction or constrained by an aggressive, short time frame.

For that reason I don’t like them. I get the point but they lower the duty of the state to prove a crime and turn it into just some bureaucratic opinion.

It won't be long before we all have to wear a Scarlet Letter.

ArmedCorgi said:

It won't be long before we all have to wear a Scarlet Letter.

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I've got a MAGA hat. Can I just wear that?

Keep blindly supporting the R's because they claim to be "Pro 2A". Very few politicians are truly Pro 2A, they may be "Pro Gun", or support gun control "lite". The vast majority will support some infringements because it looks good on them for reelection.

Is Trump a friend of Andy?

Defilade said:

Is Trump a friend of Andy?

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They help keep each other in power so, I'd say yes.

Red Flag laws should apply to elected officials. If someone thinks you're nuts you should be removed from office before you can do any harm. Random, arbitrary and vague application without due process.

Deplorable Me said:

Red Flag laws should apply to elected officials. If someone thinks you're nuts you should be removed from office before you can do any harm. Random, arbitrary and vague application without due process.

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It's the new "taxation without representation" movement.