ATF Is Classifying .50 Cal Bolt Action AR Uppers As Firearm

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All the more reason to get yours now. I know it’s on my short list. I want the mag fed bolt, would mate nicely to an 80% lower (which could then be serialized to match, for convenience).


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hey just a hunk of plastic is now a fully auto machine gun .. bump stock .. does not even have to fire a a bullet ..
 
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I perused it briefly. Why is this a firearm and other AR uppers are not? Has something to do with it being bolt action...?
 
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Blimey said:
I perused it briefly. Why is this a firearm and other AR uppers are not? Has something to do with it being bolt action...?
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Yes, that's the impression I got from reading it. Really, bottom metal aside, there is not much to a bolt action aside from a receiver, a bolt and a barrel. In this instance, the AR lower is analogous to the stock of a traditional bolt action rifle, by the ATF's interpretation. At least that's what I take away from it.
 
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Blimey said:
I perused it briefly. Why is this a firearm and other AR uppers are not? Has something to do with it being bolt action...?
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I think its because its a 50. BMG and they know someone will make an 80% lower for it. but on the upside, maybe we can finish our own uppers for this 50. and get our selves concussions from shooting it into pumpkins.
 
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dsdmmat said:
The firing control mechanism attaches to the directly to the receiver of a bolt action gun. That is the difference.
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Doesn't the firing control mechanism also attach directly to the receiver on a semi-auto?
What's the difference?

Still can't fire a round without a trigger.
 
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Grimscale said:
Doesn't the firing control mechanism also attach directly to the receiver on a semi-auto?
What's the difference?

Still can't fire a round without a trigger.
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Bolt action gun, break action gun, pump gun, and most other actions including a majority of semi guns the trigger ( fire control group) attaches directly to the receiver and therefore the receiver can fire the a round normally with or without being in a stock.

In an AR the trigger/fire control group is mounted in a separate receiver (lower receiver) which is then attached to the upper receiver. There is no way for the upper receiver to fire a round normally without the lower attached to it.

The AR was a new modular design and only one of the halves needed a serial number. Which is why the upper receiver of the ARs were not the serial numbered part when they were designed.
 
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Here we go. Last witch hunt to go after the BMG just squeezed by by a few votes. “GET YOURS NOW” written all over this one. Gotta love the way the letter opens,
Dear Safety Harbor firearms:
DEAR? DEAREST?

Ever thine
Ever mine
Ever ours,
ATF.
 
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C3D said:
Assume there is no logic. Why is the AR lower the firearm and not the AR upper? This is a mystery to me
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Because it is the part that makes it go bang regardless of what is on top. You should count yourself lucky that we dont have to have matched numbers on uppers and lowers - yet.
 
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