Guy has to surrender his guns over mistaken identity

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Agreed. This is where an organization like the ACLU should step in. Unfortunately they are beyond corrupted.

GOA or 2AF should jump on this with a gofundme.
 
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Lawfare is a form of asymmetric warfare, consisting of using the legal system against an enemy, such as by damaging or delegitimizing them, tying up their time or winning a public relations victory. The term is a portmanteau of the words law and warfare.

In case you missed it, we are the enemy to those with a totalitarian mindset. [/s]
 
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Celt said:
https://www.ammoland.com/2019/08/florida-man-has-firearms-rights-taken-away-over-mistaken-identity/


I have a real big problem with shit like this. Having to surrender your rights first and wait for due process is completely unamerican. And it's happening in more and more States. Places like this need to be taken to the Supreme Court so we can put a stop to it because the legislators are only going to expand these kinds of practices and not curtail them.
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Oh... it will climb through the courts make no mistake. Lets see how this jackasses manage this type of situations or the whole thing might implode on itself.
 
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The excuse is it's an "isolated" case and the system does more good than bad. I don't know if I'll live long enough for this illegal confiscation of property to get through the Courts
 
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Defending Against a Red Flag Confiscation Will Cost You Thousands
If your guns are confiscated under a “red flag” order, not only will you have to prove a negative — that you’re not a danger to yourself or anyone else — in order to get your property back, but you’ll have to pay thousands…maybe tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege.

Experienced counsel to defend you in a “due process” hearing will run about $15,000 in fees. If you lose and want to appeal, expect to spend another $25,000 to $100,000 in fees and costs. And even with all of that, you might still lose
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/defending-against-a-red-flag-confiscation-will-cost-you-thousands/
 
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Reminds me of when I had my permit I officially pulled.

Permit picked up.
Wife’s permit picked up.

Go to pick up G19 that’s been waiting for me for two months.

Delayed.

Three days. Denied.

Had to turn in both permits until I had the prints on file expunged.

Wife wasn’t happy.
 
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Podmonkey said:
This needs to become a Supreme Court case. Blatant violation of multiple Constitutional rights.
DO NOT COMPLY! RESIST!
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I don't know what the answer is here man, the full weight of the government coming down on you can certainly make your life miserable ( even in situations where you are 100% in the right and they are wrong) and if you have a wife, kids, a mortgage, Etc it puts you in a very bad position.

If you are told to turn in your guns and you refuse to do so you can bet that your door will be getting kicked in during the middle of the night, your dog will be shot and you will be too. They certainly aren't going to say oh well this guy doesn't want to give them to us so let's leave him alone and go to the next person.

However, if there are enough sacrificial Lambs willing to die because of these unconstitutional red flags then perhaps the courts would be forced to step in and take a look at how unconstitutional they are.
 
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Celt said:
I don't know what the answer is here man, the full weight of the government coming down on you can certainly make your life miserable ( even in situations where you are 100% in the right and they are wrong) and if you have a wife, kids, a mortgage, Etc it puts you in a very bad position.

If you are told to turn in your guns and you refuse to do so you can bet that your door will be getting kicked in during the middle of the night, your dog will be shot and you will be too. They certainly aren't going to say oh well this guy doesn't want to give them to us so let's leave him alone and go to the next person.

However, if there are enough sacrificial Lambs willing to die because of these unconstitutional red flags then perhaps the courts would be forced to step in and take a look at how unconstitutional they are.
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Sooner or later someone is going to die, there will be a cover-up and the ACLU won't give a shit. I have three contact lawyers on my phone, hopefully 1 of 3 won't be on someone's payroll if I ever need them.
 
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Celt said:
I don't know what the answer is here man, the full weight of the government coming down on you can certainly make your life miserable ( even in situations where you are 100% in the right and they are wrong) and if you have a wife, kids, a mortgage, Etc it puts you in a very bad position.

If you are told to turn in your guns and you refuse to do so you can bet that your door will be getting kicked in during the middle of the night, your dog will be shot and you will be too. They certainly aren't going to say oh well this guy doesn't want to give them to us so let's leave him alone and go to the next person.

However, if there are enough sacrificial Lambs willing to die because of these unconstitutional red flags then perhaps the courts would be forced to step in and take a look at how unconstitutional they are.
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The ones responsible for these odious laws as well as those that enforce them need to be punished!
 
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