Johnson & Johnson Ordered to Pay $572 Million in Landmark Opioid Trial

I deal with the bullshit caused by opioids Almost daily at work Yea it’s bad but lawsuits like this are bullshit. There is plenty of blame to go around the FDA and the fed laws included, Doctors etc right down to the individual user. This will do nothing but raise prices and open the door to more of it. And yea the pharma makes the meds but their not bringing in the heroin and black market Fentanyl

Speaking of opioid epidemic. I recently had to get 3 staples in my back from a small surgery. I didn't even get prescribed antibiotics but got prescribed percocets. Didn't feel an inkling of pain the whole time they were in until they were taken out but they felt I might need percs but no antibiotics SMH.

This will be overturned.

The manufacturer, in the end, will not be held responsible.

The individual is too blame. People are weak. No one forces these opioids down the throats of others.

Again, the problem is the patient/user. Put the blame where the blame rests.

GOPerfect said:

This will be overturned.

The manufacturer, in the end, will not be held responsible.

The individual is too blame. People are weak. No one forces these opioids down the throats of others.

Again, the problem is the patient/user. Put the blame where the blame rests.

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Your post is based on common sense , not on feelings so therefor totally wrong! Someone has to be blamed and you can't blame the "victim" that's not fair.

repete said:

Your post is based on common sense , not on feelings so therefor totally wrong! Someone has to be blamed and you can't blame the "victim" that's not fair.

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Fair, unfair. As you know, I could not care any less than than I do.

I always blame the person. As for these Opioids, 100% of the time do I blame the individual. Society as a whole has become weak. Years ago, people dealt with certain pains and aches; today, they pop a pill. When things get out of control, instead of realizing that deep down inside they are weak, they blame others. They blame the pill, they blame the Dr's.

I have no positive feelings for those who allow themselves to become addicts. It is NOT a sickness or a disease, it is pure weakness.

togmaster said:

This isn't a discussion about opioids. It's about a manufacturer being held liable for manufacturing a legal product that is used for no good. Kind of draws a parallel to something we all know.

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Very true. The two issues are the exact same.

This case as well as the 2A. The user of both "things" are the same, they are equal.

I blame the individual abusing these drugs the same as I blame the user of the gun.

pjzwtl said:

I deal with the bullshit caused by opioids Almost daily at work Yea it’s bad but lawsuits like this are bullshit. There is plenty of blame to go around the FDA and the fed laws included, Doctors etc right down to the individual user. This will do nothing but raise prices and open the door to more of it. And yea the pharma makes the meds but their not bringing in the heroin and black market Fentanyl

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Your list of blame-placing is in backwards order IMO.

This was a decision made by a single judge (who by the way was born and raised in CA before attending law school in Oklahoma and has spent his whole career in politics before being appointed as a Judge.) I doubt neither Thad Balkman's verdict nor his judgement will survive appeal. This was a news story because it is the first opioid case to ever be lost by a Pharmaceutical.

Im addicted to Smith & Wesson........

Im sueing!!!!

Steal2B said:

This was a decision made by a single judge (who by the way was born and raised in CA before attending law school in Oklahoma and has spent his whole career in politics before being appointed as a Judge.) I doubt neither Thad Balkman's verdict nor his judgement will survive appeal. This was a news story because it is the first opioid case to ever be lost by a Pharmaceutical.

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But there will be no consequences for the judge ruling according to his feelings and not the law.

What incentive is there for other judges not to do the same ?

572 Mill .. a drop in the bucket .. LOL ..

togmaster said:

This is a precedent and that is the problem. If it will it be overturned remains to be seen.

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And that right there is the real issue

togmaster said:

This is a precedent and that is the problem. If it will it be overturned remains to be seen.

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Seeing how this decision is contrary to dozens of other legal judgements ... we will see.

Steal2B said:

Seeing how this decision is contrary to dozens of other legal judgements ... we will see.

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Which ones?

The Oklahoma case is the first of its kind.

BDinPutnam said:

Which ones?

The Oklahoma case is the first of its kind.

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Not allowed to link to Westlaw. Will type up a list later. There are over a thousand active cases, hundreds of dismissed cases, dozens where pharmaceuticals were exonerated but chain drug stores settled / lost judgements (they were filling fake scripts) and dozens of settled cases with limited liabilities. The backbone of this case was their lobbying expenditures which were previously dismissed as a basis and mischaracterizing addiction risks which were previously dismissed.

Just an activist judge trying to see if he can make something stick that can be used as precedent against firearm manufacturers. It will have to be overturned. If not, no manufacturer or producer of anything is safe from product misuse or stupidity and that includes gun manufacturers, alcoholic beverage producers, packaged food makers (high sodium, high fat content, etc), automakers, and so on.