Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
you did not buy it .. your paying for it .. every month .. . you know the car/truck payment .. the terms were in the fine print .. no guns in it 
Gun rights activists test Walmart request not to open-carry guns into store
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Nope. You got a loan from the bank. Kia no longer owns it. They’ve been paid.you did not buy it .. your paying for it .. every month .. . you know the car/truck payment .. the terms were in the fine print .. no guns in it
Ok cliff notes,
If you have private property you get to make the rules. Others don't have to like it agree with them but it's your private property and as long as the rules are applied equally to all you are able to make your rules. Private property has special protection and privileges.
Examples,
Some bars or restaurants have dress codes
Some stores have no gun policies
Some offices have no cell phone policies
Etc...
If you have private property you get to make the rules. Others don't have to like it agree with them but it's your private property and as long as the rules are applied equally to all you are able to make your rules. Private property has special protection and privileges.
Examples,
Some bars or restaurants have dress codes
Some stores have no gun policies
Some offices have no cell phone policies
Etc...
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
well the Gov Dems / lefts have been on the banks too .. no loans for them if there 2A or have guns ..
Actually this is a real concern. This IS happening.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
shopping for a car at Kia .. ok we can see what we can do .. fill out these forms to finance with us .. there bank backers .. oh fuck he has guns .. nope
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
If I owned a bank, I can choose to only give loans to gun owners. See how that works?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Then you go to Toyota or Chevy.shopping for a car at Kia .. ok we can see what we can do .. fill out these forms to finance with us .. there bank backers .. oh fuck he has guns .. nope
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
as long as your independent and not backed from taxpayer $$$ or Fed insured
but the thing is IMHO .. they been selling this stuff for yrs .. now its a feel good issue .. over one small item that can kill ..
let play round robin again
.. the problem still is not fixed ...
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
not hard at all .. did you buy it ... cash n carry .. or get it on a loan and have to make payment .. not yours till paid off
i said that above ..
It’s not the same.
You do in fact own your car even when paying the loan off. That’s why it is registered in your name. Same with your house. The deed is in your name with a lien on it. It’s still yours.
You do in fact own your car even when paying the loan off. That’s why it is registered in your name. Same with your house. The deed is in your name with a lien on it. It’s still yours.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Is the lienholder the owner?
For example, if your local bank writes you an auto loan to finance your car, they are the lienholder. You are the practical owner of the car. ... But as long as the lienholder has a financial stake in your vehicle, they're the legal owner, and their name will appear on important documents.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Walmart employees are not allowed on my property.
Robin
Robin
You have the title. It is your car. There is a reason it is called a lien as opposed to them outright owning it. They have loaned you money and the car is the collateral. You still own it. Again, same with your house.
Simple: who pays for the oil changes?
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
Just like when you coast through a stop sign..except that's breaking a law.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
They didn't make a "rule" Made a "request"
Whereas Walmart is simply asking people to not OC. But if they did post a sign, in Texas as least, then it WOULD have the force of law. But they didn't even do that. They simply asked. And these people will "show them." Dick move.
And they call millennials entitled.
"You know how you have your business there? And you know how you asked us not to come in? No way bro, I'm entitled to shop where I please, how I please and with whatever I please, TYVM!"
You're right , they didn't even make a full blown rule or policy about it. Just a simple stament asking nicely.
The these guys still got their panties in a bunch and went directly against even that.
Sure to win overwhelming support.
Dick move.
Even simpler.
Can you modify the vehicle without the express permission of the leinholder? Can you junk the vehicle or sell it without the permission of the leinholder?
Based on your previous answers, I think you will be surprised at the answer to this.
Excellent. Then we can bring back slavery, and demand that everyone entering the property disrobe and submit to a full body cavity search. once someone is on your property they no longer have any Rights to speak of.
But you get to make the rules. Why do they then have to be applied "equally"? It's your property.
And, by this definition, i can openly carry in City Hall. since the police get to, and the rules apply equally, then I get to.
Right?
I agree its walmarts business they get to make the rules but I also think if a business of any kind or gov building strips you of your right to defend yourself they should have to supply adequate protection for you. With that said.
K what about the people that dont have or cant get CC permits? They dont get to defend themselves?
You don’t ask for permission to sell a vehicle with a lien. You’re requirer to pay the balance of the loan off upon sale or else DMV won’t transfer the title.
Toecutter
.308 Win
People have a choice whether or not to go to walmart or not. With internet shopping as popular as it is walmart needs to concider this. Amazon is two clicks and ypur stuff is at your door in 2 days .
I work in a service industry im in multiple houses everyday . Even if OC was a thing here I dont think people would like if I openly carried a handgun into thier house.
If anything we should be able to carry in govt buildings they are not privately owned .
This is the govt violating your rights and we can't choose not to go into some of these places.
Sneezy
6.5 Creedmoor
A few things come to mind.
Walmart and others have made a "request" not to open carry. If they post signs (which they have not) it means nothing.
However....in light of all the shit today with the liberals, doing so anyway to get away with it is a dick move, kicking the hornets nest. We have enough problems as gun owners so WHY MAKE IT WORSE?
The best move is to tell them in a nice way you hate their business practice and take your money elsewhere. Walmart is truly an evil entity. They drive suppliers to get the lowest price so shit gets made overseas. Spalding fell into that. They would have done better telling Walmart to go fuck itself like Hornaday did. If every gun owner quit shopping at these stores it would be noticeable. But they don't, they roll over.
So yeah, go ahead and pull the dick move, support the dick move and then see how much more we suffer. Just don't fucking whine when it gets worse because of this because they will use this as another reason.
We have better ways to fight.
Walmart and others have made a "request" not to open carry. If they post signs (which they have not) it means nothing.
However....in light of all the shit today with the liberals, doing so anyway to get away with it is a dick move, kicking the hornets nest. We have enough problems as gun owners so WHY MAKE IT WORSE?
The best move is to tell them in a nice way you hate their business practice and take your money elsewhere. Walmart is truly an evil entity. They drive suppliers to get the lowest price so shit gets made overseas. Spalding fell into that. They would have done better telling Walmart to go fuck itself like Hornaday did. If every gun owner quit shopping at these stores it would be noticeable. But they don't, they roll over.
So yeah, go ahead and pull the dick move, support the dick move and then see how much more we suffer. Just don't fucking whine when it gets worse because of this because they will use this as another reason.
We have better ways to fight.
What about areas when Walmart is the only place? They drove out the competition. Also amazon food isnt available in my area.
How has bowing down to anti-gunners wishes and wants worked out so far?
Sneezy
6.5 Creedmoor
It's taking the fight elsewhere.
Where, when? When do we fight back how long are going to get kicked in the gut? How long are we going to stand by? How long are we going to get treated like lepers and 2nd class citizens because we simply want to be prepared to defend our lives and loved ones if some asshole wants to do us harm?
Sneezy
6.5 Creedmoor
Carry concealed then. Or break the rules, your choice.