Beto is not coming for your guns.

I’m not getting into another “free for all or lock them up for life” discussion. It’s not reality, never will be, and regardless, isn’t my part of the equation to decide.

I reject your reality, sorry. It’s a fantasy. The People as intended by the Founders never included perps and scum. Hell back then they imprisoned people for being in debt! Only landowners were considered viable citizens. I actually tend to agree with that assessment.

Deplorable Me said:

Or Bozo.

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You shut your pie hole!

"Beta" is just about the perfect nickname for this putz. Too bad there are so many like him still holding elected office.

Marine Cpl said:

Wow.

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A guy on YouTube that never calls for violence is as much of a threat as ubl..... wow indeed.

@Airborneguy just a little background TYM was a police officer

I have a lot of respect for cops out there. Especially for guys like @Airborneguy @GOPerfect etc... They are good members here and they have clearly made their very pro 2a opinions known. We want them as allies. We want them on the force. We want them to influence their co-workers. We want them to get promoted to higher levels.

I remember a post where an leo member here most likely saw an out of state individual partially open carrying a 1911 and instead of jamming him up let him go about his business.

Frustration at the individual cops is misguided. Sure there are jerk cops but there are jerks everywhere in every profession.

We need to focus our energy and anger on politicians.

Focus it on state or local level officials too. Focus it on the local sheriff. Vote for the sheriff who is anti safe act etc.. most cops I've talked to are not out looking to be a confiscation hero. They just aren't. Sure there might be a few who get off on it but it's the exception.

If a real state wide confiscation order went out (not a warranted individual red flag) the vast majority of cops would probably not follow it.


We need to lobby to our country sheriff, state legislator, congress rep, senators etc..


No one here wants confiscation. We're all rightly skeptical of red flags and the potential for abuse and the lack of due process and the precedent it sets. We have to keep track and make sure it's not being abused. But let's keep the cops as allies. We all want to be on the same side.

Edwardteach72 said:

@Airborneguy just a little background TYM was a police officer

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Where?

ECU Pirates said:

Where?

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I cant remember but he has mentioned before being an officer along with army and other jobs he has done

Marine Cpl said:

If I remember correctly, he said that he was a full time officer and after retirement he was a reserve officer as well but to find that video, it would be a needle in a haystack.

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Yea, he also mentions his past professions from time to time on the live chats.

After being an officer I believe he went on and got a masters in psychology or some shit IDK he also owned a martini bar

Bozo said:

You shut your pie hole!

"Beta" is just about the perfect nickname for this putz. Too bad there are so many like him still holding elected office.

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Nope his name is PENDEJO

I think the Yankee marshal makes a couple of good points but I must confess there is something about him I don't like. On his larger point I think he completely wrong. If an idiot like Beto or any other Democrat gets in office and implements a ban it won't be the police that enforce it. There simply aren't enough of them. They will have to call out the national guard. And that is when the civil war starts. I don't consider this a real possibility at the present time. But things could change.

Edwardteach72 said:

@Airborneguy just a little background TYM was a police officer

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Glad I didn’t have to work with him.

Marine Cpl said:

Your post proves my point. Charge them and lock them up then. Because if you are just going to take their guns to leave them free at home, you also need to take their knives, car, matches, etc. It’s a really simple concept. If the state can prove that they are a danger, they should be incarcerated. Taking their guns does nothing. These confiscations are just to deprive someone of their rights. Plain and simple.

If I was a credible threat and they thought I was going to harm the president, they wouldn’t just take my guns and leave me be. I would be locked up pending investigation immediately. Why is it different if the threat was to someone else?

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I'll take, "Because leaving you free gives them justification to cripple the rest of us" for $50, Alex.

Marine Cpl said:

Perhaps he wouldn’t want to work with certain blue wall type cops either. He’s explained his dislike for them in the past.

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I have no problem smearing cops who actually obey a confiscation order completely unrelated to actual criminal activity (ie, not simply gun laws).

This piece of shit preemptively smeared all cops immediately based on the dumbass statements of a nobody. He just hates cops and looks for excuses to smear them.

Therefore, I hate him and would cheer his death. Not the least ashamed of that. I’m an atheist who believes the only good enemy is a dead enemy, and he’s a threat and my enemy. People who intentionally whip up anti-cop sentiment baselessly are personal enemies to me.

Really, how do you feel about democrats?
Robin

I personally only care about the process.

If you're going to have an anonymous person call in a Red flag, DUE PROCESS MUST HAPPEN FIRST, not after the police take your guns.

Taking someones property that will cost law abiding citizens financial ruin to get said property back, and is COMPLETELY against the Constitution, period. There shouldn't even be a discussion.

This is why the liberals WANT Red flag laws. So they can steal firearms from law abiding citizens, most of which do NOT have the financial means to get those firearms returned.

Look what RBean is going through on Long Island, that shit storm has been going on for three years, the county officials (Chief of police) are simply ignoring judicial orders.

If the LE people simply decide to ignore a judges orders, what chance do any do any of us have for justice?

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Really, how do you feel about democrats?
Robin

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Not for an open forum.

Yeah, the flags of war. I get it.
Robin

Seriously, the guy does seem like a dip shit but some of what he says is true.
Robin

Airborneguy said:

Direct anger at the cops instead of the stupid dickhead spouting shit off in a desperate bid to keep his campaign alive.

Par for the course.

Also why I gave up giving a fuck what people think of cops anymore. “Us vs Them” isn’t a one sided concoction. In fact, it’s mostly a concept that idiots like this video maker create.

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I am really not against you boss. I recognize you are against a rock and a hard place but indeed "Us vs Them" is a two way street. Law Enforcement's attitudes have undeniably shifted towards a more militant mindset. It a result of the 9/11 aftermath and the "Patriot Act". Our government dropped the ball that day and they have been making us pay ever since. Change will have to cone from within I'm afraid.

Was anything he said wrong?

Airborneguy said:

He’s got a suspicious lisp btw...

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He suffered a stroke a while back y'know.
I don't agree with everything he says or believes but he is a valuable pot stirrer.

Lets be honest . Please show me a Police officer out there that would disobey a lawful order to take your firearms, risking his pay check and pension. I don't care if it was your brother or cousin. At best he would give you/me A heads up on a burner phone before hand. [ you are smart enough to have a burner ? right] The people in the front office and there Guards are all but immune. Us common folk are not equal. We don't have "MASTER SHIELD"