How to Prepare for a Communist Coup

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how to prep?

I am simply going to buy food and store ammo and become the gray man. when the shit hits the fan, I'll be the quite guy standing off to the side, watching, planning, waiting.

I will move silently, and as quickly as this old body will allow me to go.

everything depends on Nov. 3rd.
 
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Jmac00 said:
how to prep?

I am simply going to buy food and store ammo and become the gray man. when the shit hits the fan, I'll be the quite guy standing off to the side, watching, planning, waiting.

I will move silently, and as quickly as this old body will allow me to go.

everything depends on Nov. 3rd.
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Thanks for bringing the thread back on track
 
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Mosinitis said:
You would be typing this in German without the Soviet Union.
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I for one have no problem acknowledging and thanking the Russian people for their incredible sacrifice in WW ii. They really dug their heels in deep and went balls to the wall against the nazis.

That does not change the fact that the government of the Soviet Union was murderous to its own people and overall a massive piece of shit.
 
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Blimey said:
I for one have no problem acknowledging and thanking the Russian people for their incredible sacrifice in WW ii. They really dug their heels in deep and went balls to the wall against the nazis.

That does not change the fact that the government of the Soviet Union was murderous to its own people and overall a massive piece of shit.
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That's like passing judgement on the U.S. just by how we treated Indians and Blacks and ignoring all positives. Fair analysis of the Soviet Union has to include what it replaced, what it accomplished despite all efforts to undermine it and how things deteriorated after its collapse.
To talk about Stalin's excesses without considering, what he accomplished, what he was up against and what would have happened without his iron grip is similar to what BLM does to Columbus and Jefferson.
 
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pjzwtl said:
Not likely it would have just taken longer.
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We had a hard time fighting Japanese, but Japan really had a second rate army. They were defeated in 1939 by the Soviet Union. Red Army of 1939 was only a shadow of what it became during WWII. After Western powers allowed Hitler to march into Czechoslovakia and take over Czech arms industry, Germany was unstoppable.
 
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Robin said:
You wouldn't exist if it weren't for the United States of America.
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I wouldn't exist if it wasn't for my Russian adoptive grandparents, who rescued my mother risking their lives and lives of their children. I can't even describe what they went through to save her. Their names are now engraved in granite with other righteous at Yad Vashem in Israel. Akim Pirogov and Anna Pirogova.
 
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The Russians are "angels" as directed by putin, kruchev, stalin. Every Country should have a dictator as anyone can see how appreciative the people are.....or told to be appreciative. (or else) I really think the relocation and detention camps are a plus. Also the efficiency of the KGB is second to none. Praise the motherland.
 
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Mr. terzmo said:
The Russians are "angels" as directed by putin, kruchev, stalin. Every Country should have a dictator as anyone can see how appreciative the people are.....or told to be appreciative. (or else) I really think the relocation and detention camps are a plus. Also the efficiency of the KGB is second to none. Praise the motherland.
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Every country evolves according to its history, its culture and the challenges it is facing. It's idiotic to live in a different world, different continent, with different neighbors and impose our standards on others. Our self-righteousness has been disproved in Vietnam, in Afghanistan and now in the Middle East and this wasn't without huge loss of life.
 
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Mosinitis said:
You would be typing this in German without the Soviet Union.
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And Russians would be typing it in German without the US.

But the bottom line is that people weren't risking their lives to escape west Berlin to get to the east for decades.

That pretty much tells what you need to know.

We build walls to keep people out.

They build walls to keep people in.

Anyone who thinks they will have a better life somewhere else is welcome to GTFO the US of A anytime they want. You cannot say the same for the soviet union, communist china, or any of the other communist utopias.

When the "shithole countries" thing went down and they accused Trump of racism over it, it should have just led with that. "Any country thousands of people are risking their lives to escape is a shithole. It doesn't matter what color the people who made it that way are"
 
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spat said:
And Russians would be typing it in German without the US.

But the bottom line is that people weren't risking their lives to escape west Berlin to get to the east for decades.

That pretty much tells what you need to know.

We build walls to keep people out.

They build walls to keep people in.

Anyone who thinks they will have a better life somewhere else is welcome to GTFO the US of A anytime they want. You cannot say the same for the soviet union, communist china, or any of the other communist utopias.

When the "shithole countries" thing went down and they accused Trump of racism over it, it should have just led with that. "Any country thousands of people are risking their lives to escape is a shithole. It doesn't matter what color the people who made it that way are"
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Actually many Germans who grew up in East Germany weren't happy after reunification with how things were in the West. They saw Western society as materialistic, shallow, self-indulgent with little morals . There is a saying, "not by bread alone".
 
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Mosinitis said:
That's like passing judgement on the U.S. just by how we treated Indians and Blacks and ignoring all positives. Fair analysis of the Soviet Union has to include what it replaced, what it accomplished despite all efforts to undermine it and how things deteriorated after its collapse.
To talk about Stalin's excesses without considering, what he accomplished, what he was up against and what would have happened without his iron grip is similar to what BLM does to Columbus and Jefferson.
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Did you literally miss the entire first half of my post?

Also can we please agree not to call mass murder against his own citizens "excesses"?
 
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Mosinitis said:
Actually many Germans who grew up in East Germany weren't happy after reunification with how things were in the West. They saw Western society as materialistic, shallow, self-indulgent with little morals . There is a saying, "not by bread alone".
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Yes, it's called stockholm syndrome.
 
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Blimey said:
Did you literally miss the entire first half of my post?

Also can we please agree not to call mass murder against his own citizens "excesses"?
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Russia would seize to exist without his iron grip. Stalin's purges are a part of his legacy. So is the transformation of Russia into industrial superpower and defeating Nazi Germany. It's up to the Russian people to judge his legacy. The West wanted Russia to disappear for centuries, hardly an objective source on Stalin's legacy.
 
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Mosinitis said:
Russia would seize to exist without his iron grip. Stalin's purges are a part of his legacy. So is the transformation of Russia into industrial superpower and defeating Nazi Germany. It's up to the Russian people to judge his legacy. The West wanted Russia to disappear for centuries, hardly an objective source on Stalin's legacy.
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Perhaps something that had taken Russia's place would have been better. The USA did a pretty good job of being an industrial superpower in the 20th century without gulags. Maybe if Russians had a different leader they could have been even more powerful, and without all the families carted off to camps. Heck, even Germany became very strong without it and only got really into the mass murder of its citizens relatively late in the game.
 
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Mosinitis said:
Actually many Germans who grew up in East Germany weren't happy after reunification with how things were in the West. They saw Western society as materialistic, shallow, self-indulgent with little morals . There is a saying, "not by bread alone".
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Those were the ones connected to the "220 line" a few times. gotta get their mind right
 
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If the Soviet Union were an "industrial superpower" why did their economy implode? Why were there chronic shortages of everything you can imagine? Why was everything you can imagine rationed (except of course for the party elites)? And lastly, for those goods durable and otherwise that they actually did produce, why was quality abysmally low across the board?

Actually, for that matter- why were they a net importer of food?
 
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Blimey said:
Perhaps something that had taken Russia's place would have been better. The USA did a pretty good job of being an industrial superpower in the 20th century without gulags. Maybe if Russians had a different leader they could have been even more powerful, and without all the families carted off to camps. Heck, even Germany became very strong without it and only got really into the mass murder of its citizens relatively late in the game.
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About a dozen or so civil wars on post-Soviet territory tell a different story. Some in the West look at Russia as a big gas station. Fracturing it into small states will give access to Russia's vast natural resources. Putin stands in the way. How dare the Russian president be a Russian patriot.
 
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BDinPutnam said:
If the Soviet Union were an "industrial superpower" why did their economy implode? Why were there chronic shortages of everything you can imagine? Why was everything you can imagine rationed (except of course for the party elites)? And lastly, for those goods durable and otherwise that they actually did produce, why was quality abysmally low across the board?

Actually, for that matter- why were they a net importer of food?
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They had food shortages, but they no longer had famines. They were also bankrupted by the arms race and space race. Central economy didn't work well and they were slow to adopt market economy, like China.
 
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And... its gone again.

Post about how yes there were food shortages but hey- no more actual famines! And the central economy didn't work well.. no shit.

Shame. It was the first remotely honest assessment I've seen him give.
 
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They had food shortages, but they no longer had famines. They were also bankrupted by the arms race and space race. Central economy didn't work well and they were slow to adopt market economy, like China.
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You mean this post? I still see it.
 
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Oh, and you wouldn't have been typing shit in the old USSR, all typewriters were confiscated, for those that had them as a job requirement had to register them, forget about a copying machine.
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Oh, and you wouldn't have been typing shit in the old USSR, all typewriters were confiscated, for those that had them as a job requirement had to register them, forget about a copying machine.
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Typewriters were used to forge documents. Forged documents were a huge problem in Russia.
 
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