Election Coverage And Results Thread

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Blimey said:

You may, but the courts disagree. Trump is losing most of his cases. The campaign has also just dropped their lawsuit in Michigan.

Trump campaign loses 3 cases challenging ballots after dropping its lawsuit in Michigan

President Donald Trump and his allies have repeatedly lost or withdrawn cases aimed at overturning Joe Biden's victory in the White House race.

www.cnbc.com

The question was asked why I keep pressing this. It's because too much news of this election fraud has been garnered from thoroughly illegitimate (yes even more illegitimate than MSM sites, and I'd even include huffpo in this believe it or not) sources that outright fabricated bullshit. All of that bullshit may sound good on parler but in courts it's summarily discarded as such. If we want to turn back the tide of toxic liberalism we need to be smart about it and honest about how to do it. That means spreading and in turn demanding honesty.

Many of the people involved in this, including rudy guiliani and sidney powell, are running their own names into the mud getting hooked on total rubbish. Wasn't rudy pivotal in bringing down the mob in NYC? Now he's a dumb attack dog for anything because he commands a high salary. And sidney powell was happy to relay a whole lot of complete bullshit on the news but let's see her bring that in front of a judge. So the question as to would she make this up? Absolutely she would, and she did. I would guess 80%+ of the stuff she said in that interview with maria bartiromo was rubbish. And will never be proven in court.

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Bob said:

And never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

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masterswimmer said:

If Trump loses this election there will never be a reason to vote in a general election ever again. The subversives will have proven they control every part of our government, the MSM, and finally the people.

This election is more than TDS. It is about the future of the country as founded 244 years ago. The biggest picture seems to be lost on you and so many others. Very sad.

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Phazer said:

For a moment, imagine that you are a Liberal Progressive, or non-politically-involved independent, who only watches mainstream media. At this point in time, you would not know anything about fraud investigations, about Dominion voting systems, about Smartmatic software, about bullying and doxxing of election officials, or of the efforts to investigate voting improprieties. You would only "know" that Joe Biden is the president elect and that Donald Trump is filing frivolous lawsuits to avoid having to concede the 2020 election.

Given how much most of the country "knows" about this election, this is a steep hill to climb for constitutionalists.

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masterswimmer said:

If Trump loses this election there will never be a reason to vote in a general election ever again. The subversives will have proven they control every part of our government, the MSM, and finally the people.

This election is more than TDS. It is about the future of the country as founded 244 years ago. The biggest picture seems to be lost on you and so many others. Very sad.

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Dr. Evil said:

Just curious, who did you vote for?

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Analysis: Trump's bid to spread misinformation and sow doubt

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is trying to turn America's free and fair election into a muddled mess of misinformation, specious legal claims and baseless attacks on the underpinnings of the nation's democracy.

apnews.com

Trump’s blizzard of attacks on the election are allowing him to sow discontent and doubt among his most loyal supporters, leaving many with the false impression that he is the victim of fraudulent voting... “This is all about maintaining his ego and visibility,”... it is also precisely the scenario Trump spent much of 2020 laying the groundwork for ... the goal is to help keep the president’s most loyal supporters engaged and energized for whatever he might pursue after he leaves office... Some small conservative media outlets have refused to accept Biden’s victory and have seen their audiences grow as a result.

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SonOfSun said:

"Subversives" have nothing to do with it, nobody coerced me to vote against Trump. I don't like many of his policies and I don't like him as a person. The MSM could have said how great he was for the last 4 years and I'd still dislike him. I looked at him objectively and said to myself, "yeah, I don't want 4 more years of that".

At the end of the day the country isn't one guy, so relax.

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GOPerfect said:

If The racist and American hater Biden and his dick sucking partner are elected, I really hope that you get and recceive all that you voted for. I hope during the next four years, Biden is able to come through with all of his promises. Just for people like you....

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GOPerfect said:

If The racist and American hater Biden and his dick sucking partner are elected, I really hope that you get and recceive all that you voted for. I hope during the next four years, Biden is able to come through with all of his promises. Just for people like you....

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Plan to Keep Our Sacred Obligation to Our Veterans | Joe Biden

Joe Biden believes that as a nation we have a sacred obligation to our troops--both while they are deployed and when they are veterans. Read more here.

joebiden.com

• Provide funding to ensure there is safe, reliable child care at all VA Medical Centers.
• Work with Congress to eliminate co-pays for preventive health care for veterans, which can create unnecessary barriers to seeking basic preventive care.
• Expand the list of presumptive conditions to ensure no veteran who experienced a TBI or had exposure to burn pits or other environmental toxins goes without access to VA health care and benefits. We cannot ask our veterans who are suffering to wait decades, as we did with Agent Orange. President Biden will also increase access to VA care beyond the 5-year eligibility window for combat veterans, as conditions related to toxic exposure may take many years to manifest.
• A Biden Administration will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes and reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts. This will include allowing the VA to research the use of medical cannabis to treat veteran-specific health needs.
• Increase funding for and expand access to telehealth through the VA, particularly in rural areas not able to access timely care.
• Create a national center of excellence for reducing veteran suicide, similar to the National Center on Homelessness among Veterans. Biden will recruit top-level leadership to build strategic partnerships and solutions that extend beyond the VA’s health care system.

The Biden Plan for Bankruptcy Reform - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

Biden is adopting Senator Warren’s comprehensive proposal, Fixing Our Bankruptcy System to Give People a Second Chance. In 2005, Biden worked hard to add progressive reforms to a bankruptcy bill that was going to be passed with or without him. Today, he agrees firmly with Senator Warren that we...

joebiden.com

• End the absurd rules that make it nearly impossible to discharge student loan debt in bankruptcy.
• Close loopholes that allow the wealthy and corporate creditors to abuse the bankruptcy system at the expense of everyone else.

Joe's Agenda For Students - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

Vice President Joe Biden knows that young Americans are the future of our country and that the 2020 election will have a significant impact on their lives and the lives of future generations. That’s why Joe’s agenda includes policies that matter the most to students and young people. Joe will...

joebiden.com

• Requiring aggressive methane pollution limits for oil and gas operations.
• Reducing greenhouse gas emissions from transportation by preserving and implementing the Clean Air Act and developing rigorous new fuel economy standards.
• Protecting America’s natural treasures by permanently protecting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and other areas impacted by President Trump’s attack on federal lands and waters.

Bob said:

And never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

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SonOfSun said:

"Subversives" have nothing to do with it, nobody coerced me to vote against Trump. I don't like many of his policies and I don't like him as a person. The MSM could have said how great he was for the last 4 years and I'd still dislike him. I looked at him objectively and said to myself, "yeah, I don't want 4 more years of that".

At the end of the day the country isn't one guy, so relax.

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Phazer said:

Trump's lawyers laying out the case in a press conference now:

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Blimey said:

Republican across the board. But left president blank. I would have voted for Trump but my wife hates him and would have had to vote for Biden. She votes republican but thinks too little of Trump to vote for him, so both of us skipped that box. This way she doesn't have to know her husband voted for trump and I don't have to know she voted for biden.

I actually think Trump knows he's lost this and doesn't give a shit. Note how quiet he's been lately, hiding away in the white house with the occasional tweet.

This article pretty much sums up the current situation:

Analysis: Trump's bid to spread misinformation and sow doubt

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is trying to turn America's free and fair election into a muddled mess of misinformation, specious legal claims and baseless attacks on the underpinnings of the nation's democracy.

apnews.com

Of all of the fraud claims I've happened to look at here they vary from outright, obvious bullshit to interesting, but subsequently bullshit. I include just a sampling:

- watermarks (didn't even pass sniff test)
- sharpies (didn't even pass sniff test)
- more votes than registered voters (passed sniff test, debunked within around five minutes)
- dominion changing 2.7M votes (without evidence, so impossible to debunk)
- dominion servers raided (failed sniff test)
- wisconsin data dump (debunked in 5-10 minutes also)

Some of these I did find interesting like the data dump which is why I looked it up myself to explain it and have satisfactorily done so (to my standard) in a post earlier today.

As was accurately pointed out in a post a few above this one fraud can be detected by nerds and analysts. If it's really so widespread it will be found out. They've yet to do it.

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Dr. Evil said:

I was referring to some on here lol.

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Election Coverage And Results Thread

One of many thousands, I’m sure. Wonder if there’s a NY equivalent. I’d like to see if my grandparents voted (deceased 10+years).

nygunforum.com

This is exactly what I said would happen: Trump shat on the process and poisoned the well so much that even if he loses legitimately millions will believe they were defrauded.

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Election Coverage And Results Thread

Why are you guys talking like it's over? Still alot to comb through. There is a long road up ahead. That hanging chad thing took over a month I believe to sort through ... for just one state... We have what 6 states or more ...

nygunforum.com

It is done. Went to bed Tuesday night it looked like he had it. By Wednesday morning tables had already turned and it became realistically hard to see him winning by Thursday.

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SonOfSun said:

Me too. Not an exhaustive list, but as an example I like all of these things:

Plan to Keep Our Sacred Obligation to Our Veterans | Joe Biden

Joe Biden believes that as a nation we have a sacred obligation to our troops--both while they are deployed and when they are veterans. Read more here.

joebiden.com

• Provide funding to ensure there is safe, reliable child care at all VA Medical Centers.
• Work with Congress to eliminate co-pays for preventive health care for veterans, which can create unnecessary barriers to seeking basic preventive care.
• Expand the list of presumptive conditions to ensure no veteran who experienced a TBI or had exposure to burn pits or other environmental toxins goes without access to VA health care and benefits. We cannot ask our veterans who are suffering to wait decades, as we did with Agent Orange. President Biden will also increase access to VA care beyond the 5-year eligibility window for combat veterans, as conditions related to toxic exposure may take many years to manifest.
• A Biden Administration will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes and reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts. This will include allowing the VA to research the use of medical cannabis to treat veteran-specific health needs.
• Increase funding for and expand access to telehealth through the VA, particularly in rural areas not able to access timely care.
• Create a national center of excellence for reducing veteran suicide, similar to the National Center on Homelessness among Veterans. Biden will recruit top-level leadership to build strategic partnerships and solutions that extend beyond the VA’s health care system.

The Biden Plan for Bankruptcy Reform - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

Biden is adopting Senator Warren’s comprehensive proposal, Fixing Our Bankruptcy System to Give People a Second Chance. In 2005, Biden worked hard to add progressive reforms to a bankruptcy bill that was going to be passed with or without him. Today, he agrees firmly with Senator Warren that we...

joebiden.com

• End the absurd rules that make it nearly impossible to discharge student loan debt in bankruptcy.
• Close loopholes that allow the wealthy and corporate creditors to abuse the bankruptcy system at the expense of everyone else.

Joe's Agenda For Students - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

Vice President Joe Biden knows that young Americans are the future of our country and that the 2020 election will have a significant impact on their lives and the lives of future generations. That’s why Joe’s agenda includes policies that matter the most to students and young people. Joe will...

joebiden.com

• Requiring aggressive methane pollution limits for oil and gas operations.
• Reducing greenhouse gas emissions from transportation by preserving and implementing the Clean Air Act and developing rigorous new fuel economy standards.
• Protecting America’s natural treasures by permanently protecting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and other areas impacted by President Trump’s attack on federal lands and waters.

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holdover said:

So what your saying is, most of it is Bullshit. and it will go no where.

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Calculon said:

It's at the point I'm wondering if they knew there was a good chance they'd get caught but didn't care. They stacked the deck against Trump and put the burden of proof on him. Look at the herculean efforts Trump has to go through to build a case to demonstrate pervasive fraud with no guaranteed outcome. The media called the election for sleepy joe (not that that matters but 50% of the US thinks it's legit) so even more pressure against Trump.

I believe there is sufficient evidence to prove fraud and election tampering just by whet we've seen released so far. It's frightening that the fate of our country is in the hands of SCOTUS.

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