NY City it headed for a Reckoning in a few months.

I don't believe it! After all, a comedian told me NYC will recover!!


Just kidding. NYC is F'ed. So are any contractors, vendors, lenders or anyone else who has business or contracts with the city.

Democrats don't know how to cut spending, and I don't think Republicans could bring themselves to do it anymore if they tried. The reality is NY and probably a few other states will get a federal bailout, which they will piss away instantly, find themselves further in debt, and bankrupt the nation(as if it wasn't already) along with them. NY should be expelled from the union and the land sold off at auction.

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

Democrats don't know how to cut spending, and I don't think Republicans could bring themselves to do it anymore if they tried. The reality is NY and probably a few other states will get a federal bailout, which they will piss away instantly, find themselves further in debt, and bankrupt the nation(as if it wasn't already) along with them. NY should be expelled from the union and the land sold off at auction.

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dems are party of tax and spend and repubs are party of debt and spend. I agree ny will get a federal bailout. Selfishly this is good for New Yorkers because the rest of the nation will help carry the burden of our profligacy.

No sympathy for NYC. They voted in this crap they get what they deserve. Look at Philly, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, San Fran....just add NYC to that list. All the work Giuliani and Bloomberg did...down the drain thanks to monkeyface and hizoner

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Blimey said:

dems are party of tax and spend and repubs are party of debt and spend. I agree ny will get a federal bailout. Selfishly this is good for New Yorkers because the rest of the nation will help carry the burden of our profligacy.

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I only disagree on the rest of the nation part. Cuomo and the dems don't care if they destroy the nation for a bit of federal funding.

They would give it all away for just a little bit more - Scrooge McDuck

Never a better time to see about getting a vote on the ballot for splitting upstate and downstate. Takes time, and work, but its the legal way to go about it. Whatever legally can be done to divorce ourselves from NYC, we need to pursue.

The city will seize people's property and either the rich democrats and politicians will buy it cheap and make a killing in the years to come or turn it into public housing and try and form a commie hellhole.

There may never be a better time again to give a few things one last good fight. The next 2-4 years will either be a new beginning or THE END.

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

There may never be a better time again to give a few things one last good fight. The next 2-4 years will either be a new beginning or THE END.

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You see that? You see that absolute fucking uncertainty? That abyss you're looking over the cliff down at, wondering what is at the bottom? (Beginning or end?)

That's adventure. That's the question people need to ask themselves. You ready to go into uncharted territory and help get legislation passed you didn't think possible? That's what needs to be done. Yesterday was the time to do it. Today will have to suffice.

Toecutter said:

The city will seize people's property and either the rich democrats and politicians will buy it cheap and make a killing in the years to come or turn it into public housing and try and form a commie hellhole.

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Been saying exactly this for a while now.
1) Monkeyface and his cronies will buy up property at pennies on the dollar
2) look for huge tax incentives and free money for restaurants and retail to come back.
3) Money to flow to theater and arts to help tourism recover
4) big incentives for white collar businesses to establish new office space/ leases
5) real estate prices recover due to inflow of people and money.
6) Cronies light cigars with $100 bills

All at the expense of the taxpayer.

Calculon said:

Been saying exactly this for a while now.
1) Monkeyface and his cronies will buy up property at pennies on the dollar
2) look for huge tax incentives and free money for restaurants and retail to come back.
3) Money to flow to theater and arts to help tourism recover
4) big incentives for white collar businesses to establish new office space/ leases
5) real estate prices recover due to inflow of people and money.
6) Cronies light cigars with $100 bills

All at the expense of the taxpayer.

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They can try -- but they forgot that I'm not tied to an office. I can leave this state at any time (as soon as my wife agrees ...)

Also, as someone who works in big tech, the OVERWHELMING amount of people in the industry now do not want an office. They have gotten a taste of being fully remote, and people in big tech do not want offices anymore.

Several people at work left the department actually and went other places specifically because the company I work for is being cagey about their after-pandemic remote work stance.. Places that are paying... a lot of money. A surprising amount of money even, for remote workers and no office.

I don't know what other people were offered, but one guy I think took a senior software developer position to the tune of 400-500k per year, base. Or so I've been told via the office gossip. I was quite shocked that competition has gotten that fierce, but maybe the push towards technology solutions to deal with the pandemic has made a shortage of engineers or something. Never used to see salaries like that for remote work.

Anyway, the point being, with competition high, and people mobile, it's going to be a tough sell to bring anyone into an office anytime soon. Cuomo has, as my mother likes to say "Champagne taste, but beer pockets" when it comes to being able to afford enough "incentive" to bring these people back into an office setting.

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You see that? You see that absolute fucking uncertainty? That abyss you're looking over the cliff down at, wondering what is at the bottom? (Beginning or end?)

That's adventure. That's the question people need to ask themselves. You ready to go into uncharted territory and help get legislation passed you didn't think possible? That's what needs to be done. Yesterday was the time to do it. Today will have to suffice.

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That is why I decided to run for NY Assembly in 2022. I know what's at the bottom.

If people in Georgia only knew that voting Democrat meant Georgians bailing out NYS . . .

BerettaGuy said:

Remember the book “Silent Spring” It was a book that predicted no birds in 20 or 30 years due to DDT

I predict that NY City is headed for a Silent Spring this year.

NY City has a 70 Billion Dollar Budget. That budget was created and exists based on NY City real estate taxes being paid on the property being rented for very high dollars per sq foot. The pandemic shutdown has destroyed that market along with the restaurants and all the other services.

People were not allowed to work and Cuomo protected Rent payers from evictions.

Rent payers are handing in the keys on their leases to the landlords that were charging thousands per sq ft and saying C’ya. Sue me if you want.

Now comes springtime the City is going to start collecting Real Estate Tax and it ain’t going to me there.

The Bubble is going to not just pop, but explode.

The State with its paltry 7 Billion Dollar budget is going to implode too.

They will go to Biden and beg for a bailout crying we are too big to fail.

The Reality is, cuts are going to have to happen. But if you know the Democrats in power, that is the furthest thing from their minds.

So once the bubble pops, will it give rise to the zombies? Personally, I don't feel sorry for the City that never sleeps. I am worried about the effect on the rest of the state when it happens.

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I do admit, I know less than nothing about the real estate stuff in the city. I am marking this thread to understand more and more.

not sure if this help .. but 19K a month to sell chicken lol

There is no problem bailing out NY $hitty and the State. The furher has a blank check with bidoon...Working people will pay for this...everyone will see the cost of living in NY INCREASE....(one recent example is NY Toll...30% more if no E-Z pass,so they know where a person travels) Weed will be legal....gambling expanded..prostitution next. While some will spread their legs for money..most will spread their cheeks because of the furher and the Albany MOB. People have a choice....register and vote..or leave the State. Leaving is getting more attention from what I see.

Renters don’t need to pay rent but the owners still need to pay taxes. I get it’s not income coming from paying renters and they won’t pay tax on that income. The renters will never get their money and the government will bail them out too because well people need places to live or the new low will happen.
I have a feeling they have wanted state owned property in NYC for a long time and I think this will try to be a grab for that. I think the city will take property of those that didn’t pay and not auction it off.

Calculon said:

Been saying exactly this for a while now.
1) Monkeyface and his cronies will buy up property at pennies on the dollar
2) look for huge tax incentives and free money for restaurants and retail to come back.
3) Money to flow to theater and arts to help tourism recover
4) big incentives for white collar businesses to establish new office space/ leases
5) real estate prices recover due to inflow of people and money.
6) Cronies light cigars with $100 bills

All at the expense of the taxpayer.

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CHY-NA, will be buying up properties , Ill bet on it.

Landlord's are hosed.

I got a huge raise at work. You would think I'd be happy, but all I could think about was getting bumped into a higher tax bracket.

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I see what you did there.

80% of the states money comes from the city,when the city fails the whole state will fail.

stokes said:

80% of the states money comes from the city,when the city fails the whole state will fail.

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I don't know that to be true. If it is, it hasn't always been that way, and I remember a time when upstaters complained that NYC is a tax drain on the rest of the state. They have sucked the life out of this once most prosperous region of the country through over taxing, over regulating and indeed steeling the very freedoms that have made America great.
If it is so, good, someone please tell that commie fuck that runs the Rotten Apple that he can wipe out all his debt by severing all ties with Upstate NY which starts at a bridge yet to be determined.
Robin

Speaking of which, this aged like milk:


So, let me get this straight. When upstate has economic problems, Cuomo's stance is we should fix our own pipes and fix our own economies.

When NYC is fucked, his stance is we pump it full of money?

Hypocrite.

Mr. terzmo said:

Weed will be legal....gambling expanded..prostitution next.

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And the problem with that is?

stokes said:

80% of the states money comes from the city,when the city fails the whole state will fail.

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That's what needs to happen if NY is ever going to get back on a fiscally viable path. But to be honest, I don't ever see that happening.