Budget Reloading Kits

1075tech · Feb 21, 2021

I started reloading on a Lee loader. They were about $10 then. Still have one in 223 and 308. If they ever come back in stock, I'll pick up the rest that I need.

gun_slinger_boy · Feb 21, 2021

Why not have a baggie within the baggie holing the charge? Then your kit is worth about $5.

Tisto · Feb 21, 2021

You're going to have to seat the primer in the case or else it has to be shipped as HAZMAT.

Darth · Feb 21, 2021

Carlos Hathcock said:
Standing over the annealing machine (taking in spent propane fumes) a lightning bolt struck me. Costs of ALL gun related stuff are a fortune these days, even if you can find it. What if someone can't afford 1,000 primers, 50 bullets, or a box of cases. You still want to shoot but just can't drop the big coin on components. Problem solved.

You order a Budget Reloading Kit (BRK). All you have to provide is your own powder. I made up some kits in .223 and 6.5 Creedmoor today. Just trying to figure out a reasonable price and shipping Costs. I'll start working out the details for the website this evening.

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Is that bullet in the top one large enough? :O

Hillbilly77 · Feb 22, 2021

Carlos Hathcock said:
We're all clear that this is a little reloading humor, yes?

Oh, you were joking?
Fuck.

I was ready to order 5,000 of them.

:ROFL:

technicalgadget · Feb 22, 2021

Tisto said:
You're going to have to seat the primer in the case or else it has to be shipped as HAZMAT.

I think pre-seating the primer in the brass is the way to go to sell as a kit.

Brass prep is 90% reloading. Will the primer pocket be swaged and OAL grinded out?

EDIT: damn I should have caught the humor in this.

thegatman · Feb 22, 2021

I have 10,000 spent primers you could use thus saving on the Hazmat fee.

ManrisFrack · Feb 22, 2021

Darth said:
Is that bullet in the top one large enough? :O

That's how all the 6.5s roll. Personally I think they're trying to compensate for something.

Darth · Feb 22, 2021

ManrisFrack said:
That's how all the 6.5s roll. Personally I think they're trying to compensate for something.

Does it compress the charge?

ManrisFrack · Feb 22, 2021

Darth said:
Does it compress the charge?

Wouldn't know - I don't mess with calibers of that persuasion. Wouldn't be surprised if they liked to pack their shit in tight, though.

dsdmmat · Feb 22, 2021

Darth said:
Does it compress the charge?

Depends on the powder. Most slow burning powders fill the case at 98% or better so the heavier VLDs compress the powder quite a bit.

Darth · Feb 22, 2021

dsdmmat said:
Depends on the powder. Most slow burning powders fill the case at 98% or better so the heavier VLDs compress the powder quite a bit.

I hadn't even wrap my mind around that.

meketrefe · Feb 22, 2021

This thread gave me an idea.
i am going to make tiny 1" targets for long range simulation at short range.
Pacakges of 1 to 10 can be send via small envelop including the target posts made of high quality tooth picks.
In this scenario 22lr can take the role of a supermagnum that is awesome and very efficient.
Join the long range simulation revolution!

meketrefe · Feb 22, 2021

Darth said:
I hadn't even wrap my mind around that.

Only extruded powders compress nicely. Ball powders no much for obvious reason.
One can gain density by using a slow thrower but the crunch os limited.
So, like always we have to talk about specific type of loads and calibers and case design.
One cannot geeralize here.

Darth · Feb 22, 2021

meketrefe said:
Only extruded powders compress nicely. Ball powders no much for obvious reason.
One can gain density by using a slow thrower but the crunch os limited.
So, like always we have to talk about specific type of loads and calibers and case design.
One cannot geeralize here.

I understand compressed charges. I just can't imagine that bullet sticking 3/4 of a nautical mile into the case compressing the charge.

meketrefe · Feb 22, 2021

Darth said:
I understand compressed charges. I just can't imagine that bullet sticking 3/4 of a nautical mile into the case compressing the charge.

Ot can happen with certain bullets lile solid long range bullets that are extra long.
But you have to comsider the case volume to bore ratio since the larger the ratio is the less % compression one has. Freebore has a role too as pressure peaks after the bullet moves and finds the lands so a bullet with more freebore can build some room before pressure peaks.
It has been demonstrated in special loads of low ratio (like a 6.5 tcu lets say that has a small shoulder) a charge can be so compressed that avobe max charges might produce less starting pressure and that is because the powder is so compressed that the initial starting column ignites the whole charge in a complete diffeent way. One can take a stick 123gr long range bullet over an almost full case of h4895 and get more speed and less pressure than smaller charges. But one needs the freebore.
On the other side if you try this with a 6.5-BR then will meed a slower powder and a lot of care due to the ratio being much larger so no much room to play there.
If it was a 6 5 284 then one could compress more because the column and amount of powder is much larger than thr BR.

meketrefe · Feb 22, 2021

When I say case volume to bore ratio.. I mean volume x case length / bore.
Of course one could have a 6.5 with lots of volume and steaight case like a cigarrete but that is not normal..... But it is how you calculate the powders and pressures needed when designing a cartrige.

dsdmmat · Feb 23, 2021

Darth said:
I understand compressed charges. I just can't imagine that bullet sticking 3/4 of a nautical mile into the case compressing the charge.

Most people load VLD bullets long so the boat tail is the only portion of the bullet which will protrude past the neck into the shoulder area of the case. The ogive of the VLD is usually far enough back from the point that seating the bullet deep inside the case is not necessary.

fresch · Feb 23, 2021

At the rate this country is going, You and I think along the same lines, as the black market ammo and components bazaars will open up and that will be the only way to buy. Unless you make your own powder of color.

Robin · Feb 24, 2021

I just bought some .223 brass and paid more for it than I ever paid for a loaded round of the stuff x 2, but I want to wring out the most accuracy I can on a .223 Wylde I put together and wanted all new stuff, my need to do it will not be denied! This crap has got to stop!!!!!
Robin

spat · Feb 24, 2021

Darth said:
I understand compressed charges. I just can't imagine that bullet sticking 3/4 of a nautical mile into the case compressing the charge.

It's damn near telescoped...

Telescoped ammunition - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

spat · Feb 24, 2021

meketrefe said:
Ot can happen with certain bullets lile solid long range bullets that are extra long.
But you have to comsider the case volume to bore ratio since the larger the ratio is the less % compression one has. Freebore has a role too as pressure peaks after the bullet moves and finds the lands so a bullet with more freebore can build some room before pressure peaks.
It has been demonstrated in special loads of low ratio (like a 6.5 tcu lets say that has a small shoulder) a charge can be so compressed that avobe max charges might produce less starting pressure and that is because the powder is so compressed that the initial starting column ignites the whole charge in a complete diffeent way. One can take a stick 123gr long range bullet over an almost full case of h4895 and get more speed and less pressure than smaller charges. But one needs the freebore.
On the other side if you try this with a 6.5-BR then will meed a slower powder and a lot of care due to the ratio being much larger so no much room to play there.
If it was a 6 5 284 then one could compress more because the column and amount of powder is much larger than thr BR.

I suppose the limit of a compressed charge would burn more like a rocket motor than a normal cartridge.

Where half the powder doesn't even ignite until the bullet is halfway down the barrel.

gun_slinger_boy · Feb 25, 2021

Have you guys ever seen a caliber called 300 blackout? The heavier bullets are longer than the case.

meketrefe · Feb 25, 2021

spat said:
I suppose the limit of a compressed charge would burn more like a rocket motor than a normal cartridge.

Where half the powder doesn't even ignite until the bullet is halfway down the barrel.

Yes something like that but much faster than rocket obviously.

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