Massive new tax hikes and spending on the table in Albany - Bohica

Grimscale said:

These idiots can't even understand that THEY will also be taxed higher. Are they financial masochists or just stupid?

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If the tax rate was 100%, NY would still justify the need to raise taxes, and the wealth of the people raising them would continue to increase.

I also claim single/zero and "owed" NY a few extra bucks last year. I try to be optimistic - if they just take everything I have, that is the most they can take from me.

C3D said:

They're here:

NY budget will likely hike taxes on state’s top earners to highest in the country

New York lawmakers are closing in on a state budget deal that will likely increase taxes on top earners and big businesses by billions of dollars — a move which would make wealthy New Yorkers fork …

nypost.com

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that headline is miss leading. It should read

NYS budget likely to chase top earners out of the state even faster

the problem becomes, as more "top earners" leave, the 'new top earners' will have lower income. In other words, if top earners make more than a Million dollars, and all those people leave, the next 'top earners' will be those making $500,000+, and when they are all gone, the next top earners will be those making $100,000+ ~~~~

Stay positive.

The most they can take from you is everything you have.

Has anyone considered the possibility of banding together as a group and moving to an area that economically makes sense for a large portion of forum members? Must be some degree of economic power in that, not to mention political power in being a group.

Just saying, we should be thinking creatively for how we can exit this state. Probably not realistic, but thinking in big terms is how we solve this problem.

libertysnake said:

Has anyone considered the possibility of banding together as a group and moving to an area that economically makes sense for a large portion of forum members? Must be some degree of economic power in that, not to mention political power in being a group.

Just saying, we should be thinking creatively for how we can exit this state. Probably not realistic, but thinking in big terms is how we solve this problem.

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I would consider a land partnership in East TN. Problem is getting enough people that are interested in the same area, and then getting them all to agree on the details. Land price usually drops considerably, per acre, on very large lots. A few people each putting up $30-50k could actually buy a really nice piece of property without a huge risk. I made a cash offer on a TN property last week, sight unseen. I was comfortable risking the dollar amount.

libertysnake said:

Has anyone considered the possibility of banding together as a group and moving to an area that economically makes sense for a large portion of forum members? Must be some degree of economic power in that, not to mention political power in being a group.

Just saying, we should be thinking creatively for how we can exit this state. Probably not realistic, but thinking in big terms is how we solve this problem.

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At the rate illegal immigrants are flooding in, Central and South America should be empty in about 6 months. We could do a group buy on some third world banana republic. BONUS, no snow!

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

I would consider a land partnership in East TN. Problem is getting enough people that are interested in the same area, and then getting them all to agree on the details. Land price usually drops considerably, per acre, on very large lots. A few people each putting up $30-50k could actually buy a really nice piece of property without a huge risk. I made a cash offer on a TN property last week, sight unseen. I was comfortable risking the dollar amount.

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If jobs go increasingly remote, this is more a possibility than people realize. Desk jobs are essentially mobile now.

Grimscale said:

These idiots can't even understand that THEY will also be taxed higher. Are they financial masochists or just stupid?

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The looney progressive left doesn't care if the poor get richer.... they only care if the rich are made poorer.

Phazer said:

The looney progressive left doesn't care if the poor get richer.... they only care if the rich are made poorer.

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You forget about the part where they steal from the rich to pad their own pockets. They use the poor as a shield to cover their real intent. The poor are their pawns to riot and bring violence to the rich so the bureaucrats don't get blamed or get their hands dirty.

Mr. terzmo said:

New taxes!!!! I thought Bidoon bailed all the democraptic $hitties out with billions?

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He did, but the progs want more. You can't build a socialist utopia without a whole lot of other people's money.

Ny open for "business'

meketrefe said:

Ny open for "business'

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And we're all getting "the business."

Modean said:

He did, but the progs want more. You can't build a socialist utopia without a whole lot of other people's money.

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You can drop the second half of that last sentence and it's still 100% true.

"Socialist Utopia" is an oxymoron.

Modean said:

He did, but the progs want more. You can't build a socialist utopia without a whole lot of other people's money.

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Always keep in mind: The Progressive Leftist establishment is in this for power and power's sake. They do not care if their policies allow them govern over a robust, thriving, vibrant country or to govern over an utter shithole.....as long as THEY are in power.

Mr. terzmo said:

New taxes!!!! I thought Bidoon bailed all the democraptic $hitties out with billions?

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They were running a 6-7 billion dollar hole before the pay out.

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

If the tax rate was 100%, NY would still justify the need to raise taxes, and the wealth of the people raising them would continue to increase.

I also claim single/zero and "owed" NY a few extra bucks last year. I try to be optimistic - if they just take everything I have, that is the most they can take from me.

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I do the same and I owed $1,000. I can’t even explain it.

Once again I ask the fundamental (rhetorical) question, suppose about 30% to 70% of taxpayers said FUNY and just STOPPED paying taxes and instead put the money in a protected account structure geared to provide legal protection against the state to anyone who participated? Asking for a friend...

ProgSpear said:

Once again I ask the fundamental (rhetorical) question, suppose about 30% to 70% of taxpayers said FUNY and just STOPPED paying taxes and instead put the money in a protected account structure geared to provide legal protection against the state to anyone who participated? Asking for a friend...

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Safer to move out of state.

Even if you need to get a new job with a massive pay cut, in the long run you're still better off.

If you own your home, it's best to get out before the NY housing market collapses. Leave someone else holding that bag.

libertysnake said:

Has anyone considered the possibility of banding together as a group and moving to an area that economically makes sense for a large portion of forum members? Must be some degree of economic power in that, not to mention political power in being a group.

Just saying, we should be thinking creatively for how we can exit this state. Probably not realistic, but thinking in big terms is how we solve this problem.

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I have a few friends and family members thinking about buying a large plot of land in an undetermined state. All buying together and spliting up areas on that land.

Some desirable state should smarten up and offer "remote" residency. I would change mine yesterday.

GOPerfect said:

I have a few friends and family members thinking about buying a large plot of land in an undetermined state. All buying together and spliting up areas on that land.

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Form a Corporation or LLC to make the purchase.

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

Form a Corporation or LLC to make the purchase.

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One of my associates suggested the same thing. It is being looked into as well as land.

We are nearly all on the same chapter, looking at Eastern to Central Tennessee.

Depending on how many decide to go in, decides where and how large of land we purchase.

GOPerfect said:

One of my associates suggested the same thing. It is being looked into as well as land.

We are nearly all on the same chapter, looking at Eastern to Central Tennessee.

Depending on how many decide to go in, decides where and how large of land we purchase.

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I may be near Knoxville again in two weeks for work. This time I am bringing cash.

I remember years ago people saying you'd be running away and to stay and fight fight fight. What happened?

gun_slinger_boy said:

I remember years ago people saying you'd be running away and to stay and fight fight fight. What happened?

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asks the guy in Pennsyltucky.

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:

asks the guy in Pennsyltucky.

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Exactly?

22% spending increase while having a deficit budget makes lots of sense!!!

Spend spend spend... Like WTF?

Simply amazing!

gun_slinger_boy said:

I remember years ago people saying you'd be running away and to stay and fight fight fight. What happened?

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Yeah I remember that... I used to counter that by saying, it's not "running" away.
It's "looking" for a better quality of life.

Stay and fight? LOL, It's not even a fight.
Downstate progressives has NY by the balls and that isn't ever going to change.
It's a mathematical equation... How do you fight a mathematical equation?
1+2=3 and despite what ever fight someone brings, the fact that, 1+2=3, will never change.

Even most right leaning politicians in NY are actually still in the left column.
Not being a quitter is a good trait to have. But also, knowing when to quit is just being smart.
How does someone win a fight when it's not even a fight?

In 1990 I grudgingly came here to New York from South Carolina so my wife could be with her family. But to be fair, back in 1990 things were not as bad in NY. I would not have agreed to move here to NY the way things are now... No F ing way.

I would love to move back home to SC. But NW Pennsylvania or NE Ohio is probably more likely as it would keep the wife somewhat close to this area and her family.