Leaked ATF Document Details Biden Plan to Ban ‘Ghost Guns’

I just can't bring myself to read all that. I'm sure it is laden with all sorts of unconstitutional tactic's, gleefully enforced by overreaching bureaucrats via the agents they manipulate, who gladly violate their oath for a paycheck and better bennies than any private sector business or individual, whom they will wreak their unholy war upon.
Robin

The Executive establishing "Rules" which defacto impact and infringe upon the exercise of Federal Constitutional Rights is problematic and is at the center of the entire "Scrutiny" issue! Even noted is the "narrow" definition held long by the ATF as to what constitutes a "Firearm" which here the Executive seeks to expand upon!

So by this example, every 4 years then your "RIGHTS" get a new face, new meaning, new controls, because they're NOT absolute. Even the one and only that the framers made sure to mention "Shall Not Be INFRINGED"...

You just can't make this shit up!

I keep thinking about making an AR lower out of a wood laminate.

I'd love to be the reason sheets of plywood needed to be serial numbered.

kev74 said:

I keep thinking about making an AR lower out of a wood laminate.

I'd love to be the reason sheets of plywood needed to be serial numbered.

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Do it!!! A nice chunk of mahogany or similar should machine nicely.

Jsmegs77 said:

Do it!!! A nice chunk of mahogany or similar should machine nicely.

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I was thinking about that plastic/wood laminate they make stocks out of. Maybe with a couple of layers of either fiber glass or carbon fiber sandwiched in.

Robin said:

I just can't bring myself to read all that. I'm sure it is laden with all sorts of unconstitutional tactic's, gleefully enforced by overreaching bureaucrats via the agents they manipulate, who gladly violate their oath for a paycheck and better bennies than any private sector business or individual, whom they will wreak their unholy war upon.
Robin

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Couldnt have said it better myself.

It is similar to the "ghost guns" bills moving through Albany, attempting to define a receiver as anything that could be made into a receiver.

Someone should start selling silicone molds you can just cast a lower into.

The mold isn't a gun. It's not even part of a gun. It can never be made to fire anything no matter how long the ATF technology branch tortures it.

But will they have to serialize jugs of epoxy resin after that hits the market.

all hardware stores will be regulated doing BGC's now ... less then 8 hours in a wood shop .. slam fire thing that goes up u know the thing and its black too lol

spat said:

Someone should start selling silicone molds you can just cast a lower into.

The mold isn't a gun. It's not even part of a gun. It can never be made to fire anything no matter how long the ATF technology branch tortures it.

But will they have to serialize jugs of epoxy resin after that hits the market.

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They have been out for awhile

kev74 said:

I was thinking about that plastic/wood laminate they make stocks out of. Maybe with a couple of layers of either fiber glass or carbon fiber sandwiched in.

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The interwebs are full of crazy people. I have seen AR lowers made from plywood, 2x8's, plastic cutting boards, fab'd from mostly sheetmetal, etc, etc

Cavalry said:

The interwebs are full of crazy people. I have seen AR lowers made from plywood, 2x8's, plastic cutting boards, fab'd from mostly sheetmetal, etc, etc

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I just got the urge to get an AR lower made out of carbon-fiber. That would look awesome.

Grimscale said:

I just got the urge to get an AR lower made out of carbon-fiber. That would look awesome.

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It could happen. Noziroh Systems

Nice if this stays true.

FRB said:

Nice if this stays true.

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Going to be interesting for them to prove.

How do you know how many of these I had sitting in the basement in 2020....

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Going to be interesting for them to prove.

How do you know how many of these I had sitting in the basement in 2020....

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You had it already so legal? EO to effect future sales of receivers only?

Fuck Them!
Robin

bring on the 81% lowers lol ... @FRB

mean while in ShiRaq .. the Mayor has made a new policy . the cop need to get permission to chase after a bad guy first ..

kev74 said:

I keep thinking about making an AR lower out of a wood laminate.

I'd love to be the reason sheets of plywood needed to be serial numbered.

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If they go thru with this I fully intend to start selling single shot slam fire shotgun parts which consist entirely of off the shelf items from Home Depot. I will sell each part individually so as not to construe a kit.

plated bolt together ar .. been out there .. the ATF is useless ..

@kev74 granting your wish

FRB said:

You had it already so legal? EO to effect future sales of receivers only?

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Unless they actually catch someone in the process of buying or selling, they will never be able to prove anything.

Imagine what the sales of "solvent traps" would look like if suppressors weren't registered or serialized, and ones made before 2019 were unregulated....

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