Introducing NYS Firearms Association

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Received this email. I like what he says.

Gun owners in New York State have been taken advantage of for a long time, and we all know it.

National groups have been taking millions of dollars’ worth of donations out of New York State for years, while doing absolutely nothing for us in Albany.

S.C.O.P.E. has faded away as a statewide leader in the fight for gun rights, and never really had a presence in Albany, anyway.

And with the NYS Rifle and Pistol Association betraying gun owners yet again by supporting Governor Cuomo’s efforts to regulate 80% lowers, gun owners need a new voice in Albany!

That’s why I hope you will watch this video about the New York State Firearms Association and how we are different!
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We don't fight like anyone else.
We aren’t looking to make friends.
And we dang sure don’t kiss the backside of politicians in Albany, hoping to become part of the 'insider crowd.'

We fight for our members, no one else. And we’re going to fight tooth and nail to expose gun grabbers in both parties, while giving you the tools you need to effectively fight for your freedom!

If this sounds like your kind of an organization, then I hope that you will agree to become a member of the New York State Firearms Association immediately!

Either way, I hope you’ll sign up to receive email and text updates from us, so you know what’s going on in Albany and when to take action.
For New York State,
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Aaron Dorr
Executive Director
New York State Firearms Association
P.S. With attacks on our gun rights coming from all directions and virtually everyone in Albany betraying gun owners at every turn, it is time for a new voice in the fight for Second Amendment freedom!

That’s why I hope you’ll watch the video that we’ve prepared for you, telling you about the New York State Firearms Association!

If you agree that it’s time for a no holds barred, bare knuckles organization that doesn’t cozy up to politicians and actually fights for gun owners, then I hope you’ll get involved today!
To become a member, go here: https://bit.ly/2NPSc3t Already a member? Make a donation here: http://bit.ly/37l5Gfy

To sign up for alerts, so you know when to take action, go here: SIGN UP TO RECEIVE EMAIL AND TEXT ALERTS FROM NEW YORK STATE FIREARMS ASSOCIATION TODAY!


Not a member, join here.
Already a member, donate here.


The New York State Firearms Association
154 Cobblestone Court Drive, PMB 315
Victor, NY 14564
 
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I wish them all the best and will help out if I can, just not financially. I'm still recovering from the SCOPE fiasco, the NRA fiasco, and another fiasco that my mind has chosen to block out.
Makes me wonder.
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that video keep showing up in my FB feed every day for the last week or two .. and i don't follow them .. but there every day it seams ..

we have a mental health bill to buy a gun coming up i hear .. when is the date and time for the rally NYSFA ?? will it top VA
 
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18 months since the last post, here, and I see very little supporting info for NYSFA. A video with 3 Dorr's, that's about it. They don't explain themselves well, or at all, really. These groups need serious-money backing from philanthropists that believe in 2A as an endorsement.
 
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A guy in a suit standing in front of an official building just screams "I'm a politician, here to separate you from your money."

They can provide a list of actual things they are doing to further our Rights in New York and I will decide if that is an item I choose to help fund.

But a blanket "give me money" request will be ignored.
 
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They have been spamming my burner email for years, they appear to be another Dudley Brown type organization that claims victory whenever pro gun legislation becomes law, and instead of actual pro 2 A lobbying they try to bring down actual legit pro 2A organizations that do the dirty work on lobbying and lawsuits.

 
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Grimscale said:
A guy in a suit standing in front of an official building just screams "I'm a politician, here to separate you from your money."

They can provide a list of actual things they are doing to further our Rights in New York and I will decide if that is an item I choose to help fund.

But a blanket "give me money" request will be ignored.
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I see a lot of people asking for "money" but what about "time?" If someone said "Hey, we need volunteers to hand out pamphlets" or "we need people to help dig into a given topic" or something practical, I'd be all for it -- because I know my investment is going towards the very thing they're asking.
 
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Well... Ummmm... No thank you!

What's the Barber say?

"NEXT!!!"

Take a walk and don't let it hit you in the ass on the way out... Sorry, but fuck me once, shame on me, fuck me twice... Well you know the story!

Nothing changes here in NY unless the Constitution is opened and changed and an official 2nd amendment is added! Until then, it will only be business as usual! Especially since the SCOTUS abandoned residents in NY Shitty when they promised not to do what they been doing for decades! Nothing will change here.

So resident citizens who cherish their 2A Rights will continue to do so as they've always done. On their own, in their own way, in their own privacy! (See Safe-Act registrations!)

How about you fight for us without the need for signups and contributions!? How about you do somethig FIRST, price your mettle and then come around with your hat! Otherwise you're just another snake oil salesman!

I'm a cynic at heart, so take it where it's coming from!

Can't wait to get outta here!
 
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I will tell them this. Win something, something important. Like get rid of the permit system or get rid of the round limit. Or shit get rid of unsafe. If they accomplish one of those task, then I will donate $500 to them. I will not longer be donating money in hope of something happening. I will donate after something has happened. Kinda like paying for services rendered.
 
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Grimscale said:
A guy in a suit standing in front of an official building just screams "I'm a politician, here to separate you from your money."

They can provide a list of actual things they are doing to further our Rights in New York and I will decide if that is an item I choose to help fund.

But a blanket "give me money" request will be ignored.
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Aaron Dorr isn't from New York. His wife was originally from somewhere in the Rochester area. He and his brothers appear to run a multitude of similar sounding gun groups in other states. I do not believe Aaron Dorr has much understanding of New York politics. He is registered as a paid lobbyist for NYSFA and got some of the Republicans to introduce a SYG bill in Albany. The people who are listed as having formed the NYSFA corporation are unknown to me.
 
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Ask them how they will be using your money. If they give you a sensible, straight answer then consider supporting them. If they waffle about, don't support them. There is a tremendous amount of 'activism" grift happening across the entire political spectrum. However local organizations are generally your best bang for the buck for your dollar. I agree with @libertysnake that is quite suspicious for a legitimate activist organization to panhandle for money bit not for time.
It is a dreadful shame that western civilization has become so populated with duplicitous money hungry whores. It's seems like all of society has degenerated into one big grift.
 
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Dorr did say they were going to run web ads targeting electeds last year and followed through targeting two Senators, one from New Paltz the other from Long Island. How effective was this I don't know.
 
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They (and a lot of other so-called 2A groups) are opportunists. Where were they prior to the 2016 election? History shows that in times of crisis, the scammers and opportunists come out of the woodwork (or cardboard, since that's too expensive nowadays). :)
 
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pshift said:
They (and a lot of other so-called 2A groups) are opportunists. Where were they prior to the 2016 election? History shows that in times of crisis, the scammers and opportunists come out of the woodwork (or cardboard, since that's too expensive nowadays). :)
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It is equall folly to expect tossing some bucks at an organization to solve all our problems as well.
I think it is best to support individual court battles, fund legal defenses, lawyer/court fees and such. Donate to the go fund me campaigns, or find ways to get bucks to those fighting in court when crowd funding denies them.
 
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pshift said:
They (and a lot of other so-called 2A groups) are opportunists. Where were they prior to the 2016 election? History shows that in times of crisis, the scammers and opportunists come out of the woodwork (or cardboard, since that's too expensive nowadays). :)
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I believe NYSFA was incorporated in 2018.

I spoke with Dorr and he said he formed the group because he felt the others were ineffective. He has a strong dislike for one person in particular.
 
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SomeSoldier said:
I will tell them this. Win something, something important. Like get rid of the permit system or get rid of the round limit. Or shit get rid of unsafe. If they accomplish one of those task, then I will donate $500 to them. I will not longer be donating money in hope of something happening. I will donate after something has happened. Kinda like paying for services rendered.
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Obviously winning is ideal, but at this point I'd even take an organization that legitimately tries to improve 2A protections for NYers.
 
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