Five-Hour Course Proposed For Gun Purchases

Dont forget it includes ammo too.
These people are truly insane. What will the training be required before being a politician because clearly all of them are failing. I recommend first term politicians do it for free as training. F off. What if I buy the gun in another state and it’s just transferred here?

I’m willing to discuss this if they will also take up legislation requiring a 90% score on a test concerning a proof of understanding of the Constitution before being allowed to vote.

As soon as you need a five hour course to vote, speak, be secure in your personal things.... etc.

fnfalguy said:

I’m willing to discuss this if they will also take up legislation requiring a 90% score on a test concerning a proof of understanding of the Constitution before being allowed to vote.

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+history
+economics
+ be a taxpaying landowner
I can do without the gun class though

Steal2B said:

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Jackson’s bill would require someone who wants to buy a gun to provide proof they have passed a mental health evaluation and achieved at least 90% accuracy at a shooting range using the type of weapon that will be purchased

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so exactly how does this work? according to my understanding, you can't touch a handgun in New Yorkistan unless you bought it, and it is listed on your permit??? Now the LGS is suppose to give you the gun, you go shoot it, and then give it back, to buy it.

I'm a certified instructor. I'll be burning out copiers to hand our certificated. I'll airdrop them over cities.

Jmac00 said:

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so exactly how does this work? according to my understanding, you can't touch a handgun in New Yorkistan unless you bought it, and it is listed on your permit??? Now the LGS is suppose to give you the gun, you go shoot it, and then give it back, to buy it.

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There are a lot of cops that can't score 90% . Why are they allowed to carry?

PS: your current NYS laws prohibit permit application persons from live fire so this bullshit is on you politicians.

Yeah...

And when will the 5 Hour courses begin in order to obtain your permission card to use when you go vote?

Deplorable Me said:

PS: your current NYS laws prohibit permit application persons from live fire so this bullshit is on you politicians.

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Tell that to Fulton County. Years the PP course instructed by LE let you handle pistols which of course was not legal. I am told now you live fire pistols during the course. But then again FC kinda does what they want, its very easy to obtain a unrestricted permit and while not a quick process its probably one of the fastest in the state.

In the near future buying and selling guns will no longer require any government interaction whatsoever. However it will require a heightened sense of vigilance and wariness.
Robin

What exactly is meant by 90% accuracy ....Do we just hit a 24 by 24 inch target at 10 yards ? or... put all rounds into a 1 inch circle at 10 yards ? ... Just asking...

livingston said:

What exactly is meant by 90% accuracy ....Do we just hit a 24 by 24 inch target at 10 yards ? or... put all rounds into a 1 inch circle at 10 yards ? ... Just asking...

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Intentionally vague and arbitrary just like everything else. May as well make it 150% accuracy.

Jmac00 said:

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so exactly how does this work? according to my understanding, you can't touch a handgun in New Yorkistan unless you bought it, and it is listed on your permit??? Now the LGS is suppose to give you the gun, you go shoot it, and then give it back, to buy it.

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This includes all firearms correct .. Am I shooting trap to get that 90 % accuracy or do I just fire 10 rounds at a paper target at 10 yards with # 6 shot... Just asking...

livingston said:

What exactly is meant by 90% accuracy ....Do we just hit a 24 by 24 inch target at 10 yards ? or... put all rounds into a 1 inch circle at 10 yards ? ... Just asking...

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And shooting a handgun isn't exactly easy for someone who is a beginner. So its a backdoor to a ban when people can't pass their exam. Itd be like giving someone a road test who's never driven a car, and failing them for sucking at it.

The answer to this madness is ... Buy more guns .. Before the world goes mad.. Or we could say We are Trump supporters ..... The American Talibiden ... We demand our share of free guns like you gave away to your friends a week ago...

This will of course negatively impact people of color the most, which ironically is the community Meeks claims to represent. He is a piece of work. I sent him a letter after the hearing regarding the ATV/dirt bike riding in Rochester. I had an idea for a "big brother, little brother" program where people with extra space on a trailer could meet up with these kids in the city and take them down to atv parks where these machines belong. I wasnt even dignified with a response. These politicians are a joke; every last one of them.

It sounds like they knew that prying any more into mental health evals would send it to SCOTUS, so they're trying to trim it down to avoid it being seen by higher courts.

drowhawk said:

These politicians are a joke criminals; every last one of them.

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Fixed that for you.

Apeman said:

There are a lot of cops that can't score 90% . Why are they allowed to carry?

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I believe this is about purchasing, not carrying.

dwa12479 said:

And shooting a handgun isn't exactly easy for someone who is a beginner. So its a backdoor to a ban when people can't pass their exam. Itd be like giving someone a road test who's never driven a car, and failing them for sucking at it.

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Bingo!

The test requires live-fire practice to develop proficiency. Live-fire is illegal in New York without a permit. So, not only would it be illegal to practice to obtain a first pistol in New York, it would be nearly impossible (if not cost-prohibitive) to get enough practice to obtain a first pistol even if some kind of "training exemption" was created.

So... if you're proficient with your current firearms, and want to try a new platform, you need to prove proficiency with a firearm you've never used?

This is the kind of legal detritus that we can expect in an anti-constitutional territory where elected elitists are ignorant of the topics about which they legislate.

Hmmm....sounds a lot like the heretofore unconstitutional voting "literacy tests" of the past.

So....this will do what, exactly, to prevent criminals from illegally using illegally-obtained firearms?

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What exactly is meant by 90% accuracy ....Do we just hit a 24 by 24 inch target at 10 yards ? or... put all rounds into a 1 inch circle at 10 yards ? ... Just asking...

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You must hit a barn with 90% of the rounds fired, from inside the barn...

“Throughout our state and our nation, gun violence has become an epidemic that claims many lives every single day. It is of the utmost importance that New York state combats this issue with practical solutions that enable for safe gun ownership ,” Meeks wrote in his legislative justification. “Oftentimes inexperienced and untrained gun owners can find themselves in situations in which they don’t know how to properly and safely store, use, or transport their weapons. This safety course requirement will become a crucial instrument in maintaining safe gun ownership of New York.”

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Oh FFS, almost all of the gun homicides in this state is by young black men killing other young black men, none of whom are going to be taking any course.

Maybe TX should require a 5 hour course prior to an abortion too ?

I'm not sure how you get 5 hours out of:

Always treat the gun as loaded.
Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.