No, the point is that the guys who started the damn war are responsible for 100% of the deaths in it.
The guys who got invaded aren't.
So, Ukraine would be fully justified in Nuking Moscow right now if they were able. Even as a first strike.
Just like we were in 1945.
Because, and I...
Is Russia going to nuke 2 Ukrainian cities ?
What do you think the world will do if Kiev goes up in a mushroom cloud ?
It's inevitable that the fallout would drift over several NATO members, and while it wouldn't be significant from a military standpoint, I'm pretty sure Poland at least would...
It's almost irrelevant to put a an explosive payload on an IRBM. The kinetic energy of the RV is so high that the explosives don't add much unless they are nuclear.
Do you think it *would* save Russian and Ukranian lives ?
Or would it lead to a full scale nuclear war, which obviously would *not* save Russian or Ukranian lives.
What the US did in 1945 had no possibility of escalating a conflict that was already total war.
Russians in Ukraine today is...
Japan had been cut off from substantial resupply for a long time before that.
They were preparing to fight to the last man, woman, and child with wooden spears if necessary.
They had a "death before surrender" culture. The fact that they were facing annihilation was irrelevant.
The nukes...
People today really overestimate the difference between a nuke and a shit ton of TNT.
Politically they are obviously in a completely different class. But from a military context, they are not.
The conventional firebombing of Tokyo just a few weeks earlier killed far more people than Hiroshima...
Quibbling about whether Hawaii was part of the mainland is ridiculous.
As if it wouldn't be still be an act of war if they'd sunk the battleships in the middle of rhe Pacific.
Imagine China sinking a modern Carrier Battlegroup and someone saying "well, they didn't attack the mainland, so we...
LoL, OK, whatever you say.
I don't think you'll find too many people here who would agree with that assessment, but it is a thing for sure.
*I* think we did exactly what was necessary, and most of the trouble we ran into in the 2nd half of the 20th century was because we weren't willing to...
Someone has used nuclear weapons aggressively ?
If you're talking about 1945, it might be worth reminding you that was during a world War. Nobody was going to *start* a war over it, everyone was already fighting it.
Don't even need ceramic. Steel is plenty.
Lead melts low. You can melt lead in a dollar store sauce pan over the burner on your grill.
A buddy had 2 5 gallon pails of lead wheel weights from a garage that closed.
Melted them all down that way and just skimmed the clips off the top with a...
Only of if the 2030 census doesn't count illegals for representation purposes.
Right now that's what they're farming illegals *for*.
NY and CA both have several more representatives (and therefore electoral votes) than they would if illegals weren't counted.
Doesn't matter how important Ukraine is.
The use of nuclear weapons will not be tolerated.
It would matter if it was Somalia that got nuked. Once you cross that line once, nobody can trust you to have them.
Once the first Russian nuke detonates anywhere outside Russian soil, then the rest of the world will eliminate Russia's nukes as quickly as possible.
There isn't anything faster than an ICBM.
They've had 3 years to muster a much larger and more capable force.
Granted, they do seem to have figured out how to keep fuel in what's left of their tanks by now, so there's that.
But, what did Ukraine do that was so sudden that they needed to go off half cocked ?
I really think that *was*...
Didn't come out if any if their pockets.
And in some cases a good chunk of that went *into* their pockets.
So, they're not going to let that worry them.
We can certainly agree it was ill planned and a disaster.
But, the question is "why" ?
And certainly their inability to make any progress for *years* lends credence to the idea that maybe this *is* the best they can manage.
And calling Ukraine "one of the best militaries in Europe" is a bit...