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libertytreecollectors.com will have a lot of what you need, try sarco inc and gun parts corp also. Even EBay. The two piece handguard with the wood fingers that go around the rear sight are going to be a pain to find intact, same with the forestock that is not from an Indian SMLE. But the...

Never buying anything there again , bunch a jackasses. Might go up and let them know they suck the tit of the Succubus Hochul

Muskets are smoothbore so should be exempt because they aren’t rifles… doesn’t the the new law specifically say muzzleloading rifles?

Muskets aren’t firearms in the eye of the state or feds I thought? even in this shithole state I can have a musket shipped right to my door

You’re not wrong, it will just continue to keep getting worse. There are no repercussions to anything that she does and she knows it, that’s why when you see her ugly fucking face she always has that goddamn smirk on it.

So if I’m riding my bike on the sidewalk , I’m good, until I accidentally cross into a parking lot, then its a felony…. Hmm, I wonder how many I committed today? I mean who knows pretty much anything you do in New York is a felony now , pretty soon exhaling outside will be considered a felony.

Does anybody honestly think that this cunt flinched even once with these lawsuits against her and the law? No she didn’t because she knows the fix is in , the four other lawsuits are going to play out exactly the same way.

If the judge does his job , we’ll get the injunction, it’ll be stayed and still the law goes into effect, he rules against us, it goes into effect anyway…… that’s my line of thinking on how this plays out.

Nothing happened with the safe act , nothing will happen with this either.

So are they stupid or lying, because that’s not what the text of the law says……… I already know the answer

Knowing this piece of shit state, my money is on no injunction….. hope I’m wrong.

From what I’ve read, that if your permit was issued three or more years prior to the enactment of this bullshit law yes you only have one year to renew your permit. But you cannot renew your permit until you have the training course, the training course isn’t even set up yet ,probably won’t be...

So this goes into effect in September , and if your permit was issued 3 or more years prior you have 1 year to renew with the training or it gets revoked? , but they won’t have guidelines on the course for 6-7 months? leaving about 4 months available for the 90K plus permit holders in Erie...

My understanding of the safe act was if your permit was revoked you lost your handguns but you also forfeited any rifles or shotguns that you currently owned. But that didn’t stop you from going out and purchasing other long guns right after. See, this is the thing. If I decide I’m not going to...

If you don’t recertify and let your permit expire and NY revokes it, did they change the law to make you a prohibited person from owning firearms? The safe act didn’t as far as I can tell .

What is it, Sept1st? Are they going to mail out tens of thousands of letters notifying all the permit holders they have a year to recertify, again, oh and don’t forget to take the non existent curriculum at the overwhelmed training class that has a years backlog…..we all know the answer to that.

I’d rather be prepared and keep all my firearms safe, it’s nice to think that we’d be safe in numbers but I’d rather not come home and find out they raided my house while I was at work . Don’t forget if you can’t get it in time and they revoke your license you forfeit all firearms long guns and...

I think I’ll be getting a storage locker out of state to make sure the scum bags can’t get their hands on my stuff if I can’t get the training in time….. fuck these morons, I’ve been carrying safely for about 25 years now never had one incident and now I have to do something like this , just...

“Concealed carry pistol permits will have to be recertified every 3 years, as opposed to the standard 5 years. Licenses that were issued over 3 years prior to the effective date of this legislation would have to be recertified within 1 year.” is this only what the sheriffs think ? Or is this...

I’m sorry, what section did you read that in?

I already recertified at the end of January and I’m good until 2027. They don’t even have a training regimen so how are they getting this certificate?

So now we have to recertify every three years instead of the five. And if you were issued your permit more than three years ago you have to recertify within one year but the recertification requires the training course?

I thought that’s what I read too, but I’m sure there’s another section in there stating the opposite.

Did I read it say if you were issued a permit before 2022 you do not need the certificate of training? This thing is hard to read.

How can anyone read that thing? It’s all gibberish

All that protesting the safe act did wonders

I’d bet the state sees surrendering the same as revoking and I wouldn’t put it past them to forfeit all your long guns too as per New York safe act. I mean they’re fucking over us now so why wouldn’t they fuck you over some more.

I would assume this is Going to be required of every single permit holder even if you don’t conceal carry at all , to keep your permit you’re going to have to take the training course.

You’re right it won’t hold up in court, but it will still be the law of the land a few years down the road here while we’re waiting for it to be thrown out

What are the odds this is only for new applicants? I know the answer☹️

Of course not and that’s part of the plan. There are going to be tens if not hundreds of thousands of permit holders they’re going to have to do this, and their are only so many places that you can do this in the waiting list will be backed up for years

Very unlikely

I will do what I must

Concealed means just that, I will continue to do as I please.

If they want it to pass , It will . They don’t need one single R vote

There is no system in place to background check ammo purchases , so what’s your best guess at how they plan to do it?

“Require a background check to purchase ammunition for a gun that requires a permit” We already got ass raped to get the permit why would we need another god dammed background check for ammo

Those fucking bastards are bringing back the ammunition background check.

Are we going to be required to have 15-20 hours training completed before we have to recertify our lifetime permits?

Only revolvers and used pistols made before the law went into effect, if micro stamping is certified by whatever agency is looking into it, then this will likely be the outcome .

I’d assume yes unless you have a permit, just like with handguns

It’s only for rifles not shotguns……. But I’d still get it anyway because I’m sure they’ll do that eventually

It’s not fear mongering , it’s concern and I never said that they were all getting yanked off the shelves , it’s the replacements that I’m concerned about. It’s good to be concerned because this state fucks us over regularly any chance that they get ….they do it

I don’t think anybody here believes that they won’t certify the viability of micro stamping.

Believe me I hope I’m wrong and I hope that you are correct

Not so , California has it on the books it’s been law for years now I think they introduced it in 2007 and they went into affect in 2013 the current vice president who served as Attorney General there said that micro stamping was good to go and it was implemented now no new handguns are sold in...

Well sounds like that’s that. I wonder when the run on handguns starts?

According to the text it looks like four different criteria need to be met for it to go into affect , but I’m sure as soon as the police say yeah we’re good they’ll start Telling gun dealers to take noncompliant pistols off the shelf.

I hope so too, but we all know that they won’t. They’ll continue to sell guns to the people that are oppressing us while denying us the same opportunity to purchase

Micro stamping is a de-facto ban on semi auto pistols, the Supreme Court ruled you can’t ban an entire class of fire arm in common use…. But I forgot, NY is a Constitution free zone. The gun manufacturers should refuse to sell to the State Government but we know that won’t happen, NY’s special...