freddy
.308 Win
Mossberg 590® Shockwave | O.F. Mossberg & Sons
14 inch but Mossberg states NFA legal. Is it NY legal?
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14 inch barrel = legal?
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Mossberg 590® Shockwave | O.F. Mossberg & Sons
14 inch but Mossberg states NFA legal. Is it NY legal?
RandallOfLegend
.40 S&W
I you have to ask. Not likely.
I recall the shortest barrel you can own for a shotgun is 18 inches, and for a rifle 16 inches.
I recall the shortest barrel you can own for a shotgun is 18 inches, and for a rifle 16 inches.
hoodfu
.40 S&W
By both federal and state definitions, it's not a shotgun because it's not designed to be fired from the shoulder. It comes from the factory with a bird's head grip, not a stock and is over 26 inches. It doesn't meet the definition of a pistol either because it doesn't have a rifled barrel and has no forward vertical grip so it's not an NFA AOW.
hoodfu
.40 S&W
Please read code 265 of the NY law. It says a "firearm" is a pistol or revolver, a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16" and a shotgun with a barrel shorter than 18". Therefore, this gun doesn't meet the definition of NY's definition of a firearm. It does meet the federal definition of a firearm however which puts in the same category as pistol grip only shotguns which we can readily find at the gun shops.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
It looks unpleasant to shoot.
hoodfu
.40 S&W
You're still ignoring the definition of a shotgun, for the second time. This gun was never a shotgun because it never had a stock on it and therefore was never designed to be fired from the shoulder.
And you're still ignoring "Yeah, good luck with that". Dude, it's a Mossberg 590 with a pistol (yeah, yeah, "birds head") grip and a barrel cut down to 14". Good luck with it in NY. I'll say it again if you can get an FFL to transfer it go for it. Or just buy a Mossy 590 and cut the stock and barrel and see how that works for you.
hoodfu
.40 S&W
Good god you're still doing it. No barrel was ever "cut down" and then you equate it in the end to what would be making a short barreled shotgun when these 2 things are by the law, not the same thing. Laws have meaning and these laws have more than 70 years of federal NFA court cases solidifying that they mean what they say, very plainly. These aren't being sold yet, so we'll have to wait a bit before they can be purchased in stores.
whauburger
6.5 Creedmoor
Ahhh the good old days.
Gunner57
.223 Rem
Yeah, I just checked with my ring girls. They said fuck it, they're not coming out, that thing is ugly. If it was a Serbu Super Shorty they'd do it topless tho!
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
Mossberg insists that they have produced this weapon in accordance with all federal laws. I will NOT transfer one of these.
Gunner57
.223 Rem
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stuck in ny
Guest
Whats wrong with it? Semi auto-no. ATF approved. It it a pistol? No-pistols have to be under 26'' What could the commies in Albany call it? Make up a new classification?
freddy
.308 Win
" the 590 Shockwave exists due to the best loophole. There exists a realm in American firearms law that allows for a non-NFA Mossberg 500 with 14-inchch barrel to exist. Without going into too deep into the why a Mossberg 590 that has never had a stock attached to it, and is longer than 26 inches is not considered a shotgun and considered a firearm. This puts the weapon’s legal definition as a firearm and not a shotgun. So barrel length isn’t an issue as long as the overall length is longer than 26 inches and it lacks a stock."
Mossberg's No NFA 590 Shockwave - Shot Show | The Arms Guide
Mossberg's No NFA 590 Shockwave - Shot Show | The Arms Guide
freddy
.308 Win
I want one just because!
freddy
.308 Win
Disclaimer: Although the Mossberg 590 Shockwave is classified as a “firearm” under the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), and is not subject to the provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA), state and local laws may be more restrictive. Even though, it is legal federally, the 590 Shockwave may be considered a “short-barreled” shotgun or “assault weapon” by certain state and local laws; and therefore illegal to possess. Please check with your local authorities concerning the legality of possessing a firearm of this configuration.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Glad I got to see the pic before it is removed LOL.
We gonna get our first ban here?
Bushmaster
.308 Win
Mossberg 590® Shockwave | O.F. Mossberg & Sons
14 inch but Mossberg states NFA legal. Is it NY legal?
I can see sooooo many grey areas in law with it legal/not legal. I want to see video of it shot as a handgun! lol
capitalcrew
.44 mag
Too bad her tits are fake. Not bad otherwise
freddy
.308 Win
Listen mac, don't trash talk about my wife.
Bushmaster
.308 Win
Damn what pic I miss? PM me pic lol, I'll pm one back lol...
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Forget the fed. Definition of a firearm.
Ny defines it as:
S 265.00 Definitions.
As used in this article and in article four hundred, the following
terms shall mean and include:
3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having
one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle
having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
S 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
(1) He or she possesses any firearm, electronic dart gun, electronic
stun gun, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, metal
knuckle knife, cane sword, billy, blackjack, bludgeon, plastic knuckles,
metal knuckles, chuka stick, sand bag, sandclub, wrist-brace type
slingshot or slungshot, shirken or "Kung Fu s
Ny defines it as:
S 265.00 Definitions.
As used in this article and in article four hundred, the following
terms shall mean and include:
3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having
one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle
having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
S 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
(1) He or she possesses any firearm, electronic dart gun, electronic
stun gun, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, metal
knuckle knife, cane sword, billy, blackjack, bludgeon, plastic knuckles,
metal knuckles, chuka stick, sand bag, sandclub, wrist-brace type
slingshot or slungshot, shirken or "Kung Fu s
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver;
S 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
so even with your PP your a bad bad boy in NY if LEO wanted to be a ass .. LOL ...
or did you leave out a few other sub sections hehhehee ...
S 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
so even with your PP your a bad bad boy in NY if LEO wanted to be a ass .. LOL ...
or did you leave out a few other sub sections hehhehee ...