3 dead in shooting at Indiana mall

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Meyers also expressed his thanks to the person who fatally shot the gunman while the shooting was in progress.
"This person saved lives tonight. On behalf of the City of Greenwood, I am grateful for his quick action and heroism in this situation," the mayor said in another statement later Sunday evening.

But we need to restrict where people can carry. FUKH
 
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A little information about the general location of the mall. On another forum, I was reading that the area is heavily conservative, kind of redneckish. Lots of gun owners, not all that uncommon for someone to be open carrying.

And IIRC last month Indiana went to a permitless carry. Before that, a permit was required but it was easy to acquire and cost something like $120.

I got this information from the people posting on that forum that either live in that county or are familiar with it. One local resident of the area said that if someone was going to do something like this. To do it in that area, is a bad idea because there are so many concealed carriers.

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IMO this scenario did not go as planned. Darn CCW holder. So what are the chances of another shooting situation occurring before the house AWB vote. Another big shooting is what will be needed to bring the Rinos across the aisle. :hookah:
 
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IMO this scenario did not go as planned. Darn CCW holder. So what are the chances of another shooting situation occurring before the house AWB vote. Another big shooting is what will be needed to bring the Rinos across the aisle. :hookah:
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It's all so predictable and it has been for quite a while now.
 
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Actually, it is a complete repudiation of the "gun laws prevent crimes" doctrine incorrectly forced upon the law-abiding general public by liberal progressive Democrats. A person intent on murder will not be dissuaded by any laws or signs because they have already hardened their heart and plan to engage a wholly egregious, and illegal, act. Such a person cannot be deterred. They can only be stopped once they set their horrific plan into action. An active shooter (read: murderer) can most effective be stopped with the judicious use of a firearm by a trained, law-abiding, person. Police can do so...if they choose. As we know, police are under an ethical, but not legal, obligation to protect people. Whole teams of professionally trained police officers failed to save elementary school students from being slaughtered in Uvalde, Texas. Why would anyone want to rely on off-site assistance from officers who may not intervene? And, even if they do, the evil person with a gun will wreak havoc among unarmed civilians in a crowed venue such as a mall until that help arrives.

Leftists live in world that they wish exists. They indignantly profess, "We don't want anyone to have guns." Well...that is just not realistic.

Conservatives and constitutionalists live in the real world. They know that criminals engage in criminal acts...because they are criminals. The best that we can do is avoid being where the criminals are, avoid conflict through escape when feasible, and to be prepared to stop the criminals if we have to.

The liberal progressives seek to protect the general population with hopes and wishes while they protect themselves with armed guards. That is pure hypocrisy and they must be called out on it.
 
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Gun laws in Indiana - Wikipedia

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Restricted locations[edit]​

It is illegal for anyone, except for law enforcement officers and authorized school resource officers, to possess a firearm on school property (K-12 and day care) or on a school bus,[7] except that lawful gun owners may have guns in their vehicles on school property provided that the gun is stored out of plain sight in the person's locked motor vehicle[8] or that the driver is only transporting someone to, or from, a school event. It is also illegal to carry a firearm on a commercial airplane or in the controlled section of an airport,[9] on a riverboat gambling cruise, at the Indiana State Fair, courthouses and the Indiana Statehouse and Government Center. Carrying on Army Corps of Engineers property which include Brookville Lake, Cagles Mill Lake, Cecil M. Harden Lake, J. Edward Roush Lake, Mississinewa Lake, Monroe Lake, Patoka Lake, and Salamonie Lake is restricted according to CFR Title 36, Chapter 111, Part 327.[10]

Private businesses may restrict or forbid firearms on their properties. However, signs prohibiting concealed weapons in private businesses do not have force of law in Indiana, although refusing to leave such a place for carrying a weapon, if requested by the property owner, would constitute trespassing. However, a 2010 law prohibits employers from discharging employees for in-vehicle firearms possession on business property.[11] Furthermore, an employer may not ask any employee about the possession of firearms and/or ammunition.[12]
 
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BuffNiag said:
This incident no longer fits the MSM narrative. The story will be dropped immediately.
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Surprisingly, it is being covered on some. MSN is actually hosting ABC coverage and it's not total cringe. o_O


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There's video news coverage that I can't get to embed. First 3 minutes cover Greenwood followed by 9 minutes on Uvalde, that is critical of the response. Contrasting them side-by-side - one legally armed CCW vs. almost 400 LEOs (no offense to our LEOs here) and the outcomes, anyone with half brain would see the problem with gun laws and gun free zones. The left still won't get it and see the virtue in allowing the public to take care of itself.

Bad guy = Jonathan Sapirman
Good guy = Elisjsha Dicken
 
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