A New Yorkers Guide to Gun owner survival and "bugging out" True to life version 1.0

[ArmedCorgi]

Friends...I think it's no secret that there is most probably a literal shit storm of gun control and draconian regulations coming our way very soon and in perpetuity here in NYS. While I pride myself for not melting down over this fact, I'm not just going to stick my head in the sand and ignore the writing on the wall.
I should state before I pose the general questions at issue here, that I hate to, and as a general rule, DO NOT sell or trade a gun unless that sale or trade is towards another gun more suited to my POU (to borrow a term). That said, in light of what may or may not be coming our way, what is the best course of action for gun ownership survival here in this state? My GF and I want out, but we have yet to decide where that is and we don't want to just recklessly leave with no plan. Plus, we still need to accumulate the funds necessary to achieve that goal. Granted, without knowing exactly what is going to happen, it's hard to adequately prepare. However, assuming the worst or close to it, I feel there must be a solution that offers piece of mind in the sense of not having to worry about being thrown in jail or having other potential legal problems.
The situation:
Everything I currently own is, as of now, NY compliant.
I have semi-auto rifles, shotguns and pistols.
I have bolt, pump and lever action guns as well.
Revolvers too.
Do I send the guns I own that are most likely to be targeted by new legislation, out of state for safe keeping until I can move out?

Do I sell them now and fund a different platform less likely to be regulated?

Do I whittle down my inventory to lessen the burden for moving? - This question is the more important one in my opinion. Someone close to me once told me to imagine if I had to carry everything I owned on my back. How hard would it be for me?...So would a smart move be to eliminate the non essential guns to lighten the load, with the idea of re-acquiring them after I get to where I want to go?

Do I transfer my handguns to a friend or relative out of state and surrender my NYS permit so as to avoid all the eggshell walking and potential vulnerabilities with having a permit?

I am bringing these things up as a means of starting the discussion for people who want to bug out of NY, but don't necessarily have the means to do it at the drop of a hat.

Please post your thoughts and ideas for strategies.

 

[Bananabandit]

dont put the cart before the horse
Cross that bridge when you get to it
There's plenty of fish in the sea
Every storm runs out of rain

Wait what were we talking about?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

dont put the cart before the horse
Cross that bridge when you get to it
There's plenty of fish in the sea
Every storm runs out of rain

Wait what were we talking about?

So, to be clear, don't holler till I'm hurt?

 

[Bananabandit]

So, to be clear, don't holler till I'm hurt?

why would you holler if you werent?

this thread might be better asked when there is a proposed law. Cause what you may plan for may effect a firearm you didnt consider. All Im sayin, fam.

 

[ProgSpear]

Essentially this is an urban vs rural struggle. The totalitarian left is largely an urban phenomenon. This was demonstrated in Europe starting with the French Revolution through Marx and the Bolsheviks and the American left today. The so called “Democratic” party’s aims are identical to that of all of those revolutionary movements, the accretion of power into their hands. Their ends are diametrically opposed to any concept of individual autonomy or freedom, (except for those that are in ruling positions) and they truly believe that aggregating enough “votes” can nullify any opposition, including existing documents, institutions, or society. Just look at the voting patterns by county. We have allowed them to capture the educational sphere, particularly in the cites, and that was our primary failing.

Sadly, by the time many of us realize what they are up to, its very late in the game...

 

[togmaster]

So, to be clear, don't holler till I'm hurt?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Sadly, by the time many of us realize what they are up to, its very late in the game...

This is where we are now.

 

[Twogunwilly]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

sure does, I found a big steamer in the middle of my swamp trapline. well not really a steamer, it was ground temp.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

I know it's too early, but this thread is also for those who want to egress from NYS with the most ease. So ideas for that are valid as well.

 

[togmaster]

I would love to pull anchor and GTFO of NY but the reality is my roots are too deep. I may someday find a place down south to keep my toys and vacation but unfortunately NY is my home. I will deal with whatever shitstorm is coming any way I can.

 

[tapper3]

sure does, I found a big steamer in the middle of my swamp trapline. well not really a steamer, it was ground temp.

I had a friend who had a big Lab he called Bear. One day I understood.

 

[phatfarmerbob]

Was talking to a friend today in NC, I told him to make room in his safe, and keep an eye open for a mountside 75+ acres at 2-3k an acre.

 

[GOPerfect]

Yeah, no matter what draconian laws are passed in the fucked up State, I will do nothing different. I will own what I want, I will buy what I want. I will continue to buy and store as much ammo as possible. I will not pay more in taxes and fees for my Right. I will go to a free State and purchase all that I need.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Yeah, no matter what draconian laws are passed in the fucked up State, I will do nothing different. I will own what I want, I will buy what I want. I will continue to buy and store as much ammo as possible. I will not pay more in taxes and fees for my Right. I will go to a free State and purchase all that I need.

Good. I am glad you are of this opinion. Forgive me for asking though and I mean no disrespect, but how much of what you are saying is said because it's backed by the knowledge of being exempt from certain things being a LEO?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Was talking to a friend today in NC, I told him to make room in his safe, and keep an eye open for a mountside 75+ acres at 2-3k an acre.

Where abouts in NC? I have friends in far western NC, true Appalachia..

 

[redtail]

Looking for a cheap shack or cabin in Pa. I could commute to, until I can uproot the fam. for good, still have a few more yrs. to go.

 

[GOPerfect]

Good. I am glad you are of this opinion. Forgive me for asking though and I mean no disrespect, but how much of what you are saying is said because it's backed by the knowledge of being exempt from certain things being a LEO?

Absolutely none, and no offense taken. I have heard, through a little birdie, that many of the LEO exemptions are on the table to be lessened or taken away. For what it is worth, the SAFE Act was passed prior to me getting hired with my current job. I had what I wanted prior to this job, I never decreased my inventory.

 

[phatfarmerbob]

Where abouts in NC? I have friends in far western NC, true Appalachia..

Weaverville about 20 min from Asheville. It’s beautiful, my end goal is Utah or Idaho but it might be a steppingstone. Not that I can ever leave NY totally but I want to set up something to spend the off season.

Good. I am glad you are of this opinion. Forgive me for asking though and I mean no disrespect, but how much of what you are saying is said because it's backed by the knowledge of being exempt from certain things being a LEO?

I’m interested in goperfects response also. I had the same question typed up but didn’t post cause I thought I sounded like a dick. Corgi you worded it better.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Weaverville about 20 min from Asheville. It’s beautiful, my end goal is Utah or Idaho but it might be a steppingstone. Not that I can ever leave NY totally but I want to set up something to spend the off season.

I have friends in Murphy NC which is maybe an hour or two SW from Asheville. My GF and I visited that whole area not that long ago and while we both liked it, we both felt it was too much like ny as far as geography and foliage, Etc. We are really looking west. Like you, Utah or maybe northern Arizona or even Wyoming. We want to take a trip out this spring.

 

[phatfarmerbob]

New Mexico was my favorite in my 60 day road trip but I think they are going blue ... the Gila national forest area is amazing but I don’t think it’s gonna hold. I was also 23 so I might have still had my rose colored glasses on?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

New Mexico was my favorite in my 60 day road trip but I think they are going blue ... the Gila national forest area is amazing but I don’t think it’s gonna hold. I was also 23 so I might have still had my rose colored glasses on?

New Mexico is a blue state, but as far as I know, they are still 100x more gun friendly than NY.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Whenever these laws pass, there is always a period when it takes affect. It isn't going to be passed tonight and illegal tomorrow. It's usually about a year.

So don't worry about anything yet. If anything happens and you want to stay legal, you can always rent a storage unit out of state like in PA for example and store them in a locking job box or something.

About the only thing that would result in going to make you have to take action is a semi auto ban at which point you would either register them like your pistols are already registered or store them out of state if you do not want to do so. Or you could just hide them somewhere until you get out of here.

No need to panic.

 

[tirwin1]

I can see limits to ammo as more likely than bans on all semi autos. That's crossing a very big line and hopefully would not survive a legal challenge. As many have pointed out none of the proposed remedies by liberals would have stopped any of these shootings. So all they can fall back on is cosmetic changes or an outright ban. Either way let's see what they propose.

 

[GTN]

He’s not going to purpose anything. He rammed down our throats once and he’ll do it again. He’ll declare it later a “ act of necessity” again to save the children, country music fans, or whatever bullshit he can think of!
I think ammo will be the first thing on his list. He wanted it the first time and it failed and I’m sure that pissed him off.

 

[Steal2B]

FUAC is not going to do everything he can get away with, especially before a potential 2020 election season. FUAC is going to enact whatever his handlers believe will further his ambitions, keep him in the news, and build a false legacy. Our infringements will come in a planned steady stream. Also, FUAC knows eliminating our rights have no impact on criminals and he can not afford to see violent crime continue after he finishes destroying our 2A rights. After his 2020 dreams evaporate, his angry punitive retaliatory self will wreck the most havoc on our rights, lives, wallets, and stomachs.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Whenever these laws pass, there is always a period when it takes affect. It isn't going to be passed tonight and illegal tomorrow. It's usually about a year.

So don't worry about anything yet. If anything happens and you want to stay legal, you can always rent a storage unit out of state like in PA for example and store them in a locking job box or something.

About the only thing that would result in going to make you have to take action is a semi auto ban at which point you would either register them like your pistols are already registered or store them out of state if you do not want to do so. Or you could just hide them somewhere until you get out of here.

No need to panic.

I don't mean to imply I am in panic mode yet. I'm not at all, but I am worried and want to draft out the different ways I would deal with new laws. We all learned a lesson with the passing of the safe act. We mostly thought it would never pass and it did, then we thought it would be struck down and it wasn't. I know there is usually a grace period before new laws go into effect, but depending on what gets passed that may be enough time to adapt or it may not. Even if Albany only manages one new regulation a year, each year it will become harder and harder to navigate the laws and harder and harder to be a gun owner in this state.

I guess maybe a better way to put this is, my goal is to get out of New York. Once my GF and I find where we want to go, we can start selling stuff off and cleaning house to lose everything we don't need to take with us. As far as guns go in the time between when we find where we want to go and when we get there (because it may take years after finding our spot), how do I manage the guns?
Obviously without knowing what will be passed it's hard to speculate but we can generate some options and opinions of what one might do (contingencies).

1. Keep everything I have and do what I can to comply, if there are ways to comply. - this could get expensive.
2. Send stuff out of state to either friends or family. - means I may have to go out of my way to pick them up when its time and that they may need to be retransfered to me (more nics).
3. I rent storage out of state and store them. - may have to go out of my way to pick them up. may have corrosion issues. could get expensive.
4. Sell what I can or feel isn't essential or what cannot be made to comply to either fund a replacement gun or to help fund moving out of NY.
5. Sell what I feel will most likely be affected by what's coming down the pipe to avoid having to deal with compliance and lighten my load with moving.
6. Just sell everything to help fund my move and start over when I get to where I'm going.

Look at this like a bug out scenario. You have to go, what do you do?

 

[Catskillkid]

My concern right now is mandatory liability insurance. I think the costs of that are going to be punitive. Again, we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Catskillkid]

I don't mean to imply I am in panic mode yet. I'm not at all, but I am worried and want to draft out the different ways I would deal with new laws. We all learned a lesson with the passing of the safe act. We mostly thought it would never pass and it did, then we thought it would be struck down and it wasn't. I know there is usually a grace period before new laws go into effect, but depending on what gets passed that may be enough time to adapt or it may not. Even if Albany only manages one new regulation a year, each year it will become harder and harder to navigate the laws and harder and harder to be a gun owner in this state.

I guess maybe a better way to put this is, my goal is to get out of New York. Once my GF and I find where we want to go, we can start selling stuff off and cleaning house to lose everything we don't need to take with us. As far as guns go in the time between when we find where we want to go and when we get there (because it may take years after finding our spot), how do I manage the guns?
Obviously without knowing what will be passed it's hard to speculate but we can generate some options and opinions of what one might do (contingencies).

1. Keep everything I have and do what I can to comply, if there are ways to comply. - this could get expensive.
2. Send stuff out of state to either friends or family. - means I may have to go out of my way to pick them up when its time and that they may need to be retransfered to me (more nics).
3. I rent storage out of state and store them. - may have to go out of my way to pick them up. may have corrosion issues. could get expensive.
4. Sell what I can or feel isn't essential or what cannot be made to comply to either fund a replacement gun or to help fund moving out of NY.
5. Sell what I feel will most likely be affected by what's coming down the pipe to avoid having to deal with compliance and lighten my load with moving.
6. Just sell everything to help fund my move and start over when I get to where I'm going.

Look at this like a bug out scenario. You have to go, what do you do?

These are all good questions and ones I think about a lot myself, though in reality my job and family situation will probably keep me in NY for a long time coming. My personal opinion, if you must sell, sell all but a quality handgun, rifle and shotgun. Keep at least one of each of those (whether they be semi-auto or not is up to you). At least you can use them for hunting/self-defense if needed.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

My concern right now is mandatory liability insurance. I think the costs of that are going to be punitive. Again, we'll have to wait and see.

And kicker with this is Cuomo is trying to kill the liability insurance that he claims he wants gun owners to have. He wants it to be impossible to comply.

 

[GTN]

And kicker with this is Cuomo is trying to kill the liability insurance that he claims he wants gun owners to have. He wants it to be impossible to comply.

Yeah I went and got it on my own and then he made it null n void