ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
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Fold up Glocks in action with mini Roni
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BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Thanks for giving me another reason to hate New York, @ArmedCorgi.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Hey, it's almost Friday.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
To be fair you can buy everything in that video except the 18 round mag.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
So would the mini roni just be considered an accessory that you wouldn't need to amend your permit for, since you are using your registered pistol and it doesn't change the caliber?
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Yes. And I also meant 33 round mag lol.
ETA: The mini roni would be even more legit than this since you're not even changing the barrel length.
Mech Tech Systems - The world's most versatile pistol carbine accessory
TheMoneyPit
.357 mag
I still can’t get behind the folding glocks, I just wouldn’t trust that design with my life. Making a Glock 43 fold in half is pretty pointless if you ask me...they are already super easy to conceal.....but the mini roni is pretty cool for sure
Its.funny I saw a roni for sale in a local shop 4 years ago
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
They used to be real stock only so it was out for non nfa states.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I was in the market for something similar. The Mech Tech a while back. I posted the question and people here told me that the chassis is a barrel shroud since it completely encircles the barrel and a second handgrip.
I argued against it but I can see how it can be used against you.
I argued against it but I can see how it can be used against you.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Not only that but it would be a semi auto rifle that can take a detachable mag.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Well my plan was to never attach a stock to it and use a brace instead.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
You could do that but it would get pricey. I'd rather build one of these.
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Then you'd need a useless fixed magazine.You could do that but it would get pricey. I'd rather build one of these.
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gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
I forget why. Is it because the mag is outside the grip?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That and over 50 ounces.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
My plan was to do this with the Mech Tech.
It would still be a pistol.
But I was told that the hanguard would be a shroud or a second hand grip and that the manufactured wait was over 50 Oz.
My argument was that it wasn't shroud or a second hand grip. It's just a long slide. And the manufactured weight of the glock itself from the factory is less than 50 Oz. I wouldn't be manufacturing anything. I would just be adding bigger slide with a bigger barrel and it's no different than adding a long barrel to the original slide and an optic. That would make it over 50 oz too and you aren't manufacturing anything just like this.
It would still be a pistol.
But I was told that the hanguard would be a shroud or a second hand grip and that the manufactured wait was over 50 Oz.
My argument was that it wasn't shroud or a second hand grip. It's just a long slide. And the manufactured weight of the glock itself from the factory is less than 50 Oz. I wouldn't be manufacturing anything. I would just be adding bigger slide with a bigger barrel and it's no different than adding a long barrel to the original slide and an optic. That would make it over 50 oz too and you aren't manufacturing anything just like this.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Ugh. I forget about these silly laws more and more as time goes on. I think you'd be better to go the roni route than the mag tech if it's still something you'd want to do.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Too late. I've got a heavy, long Ruger PCC instead. The Roni does have the 2nd handgrip built in so it wouldn't be legal.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
and off the ranch and vet ranch and his dads ranch chan ( brain fart ) lol ..
You can own one in NY. You just can't have the one with an actual stock. You can own the Roni with the stabilizer.
There was some back and forth with this topic with BATFE but the ruling was overturned back in April 2017 and the Stabilizer model is once again able to be shouldered and is not considered to be an NFA item and does not require the tax stamp.
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Negatory.. the brace one still has a pic rail to add a forgrip
Mine does not.
On their website the Stabilizer version also does not have the picatinny rail to support a foregrip.
Micro RONI® Stabilizer - CAA Gear Up - CAA USA
You may have been looking at the following items:
Roni Pistol Carbine conversion - NFA required
Roni Civilian Pistol Carbine conversion - NO NFA
RONI-STAB - NFA required
They are only banned in CA and NJ as per their website, say nothing about NY. They are also not the same as the Micro-Roni.
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Mine does not.
On their website the Stabilizer version also does not have the picatinny rail to support a foregrip.
Micro RONI® Stabilizer - CAA Gear Up - CAA USA
You may have been looking at the following items:
Roni Pistol Carbine conversion - NFA required
Roni Civilian Pistol Carbine conversion - NO NFA
RONI-STAB - NFA required
They are only banned in CA and NJ as per their website, say nothing about NY. They are also not the same as the Micro-Roni.
Touche, last one I ever looked at had the pic rail on the bottom
I might be mistaken but don't you still have to address the barrel shroud issue?
It is not a barrel shroud, it's essentially a carrier or a frame.
The product rep at the gun show (who sold me the Roni) said that the barrel nub on the front of the Roni does not make contact with the actual gun barrel therefore it cannot be considered a shroud or barrel extension.
Although I agree with that statement I think you would have a hard time selling it in court. Mind you I don't really care about that stuff I just thought it should be highlighted for the people on the fence.
BMF JK
.44 mag
Side note :
They now have a kit available for the M&P !!
MCKSWMP | Micro Conversion Kit (Smith & Wesson) - CAA Gear Up - CAA USA
I believe without a doubt it is 100% legal in NYS ... as long as your pistol doesn’t accidentally fall into it !
They now have a kit available for the M&P !!
MCKSWMP | Micro Conversion Kit (Smith & Wesson) - CAA Gear Up - CAA USA
I believe without a doubt it is 100% legal in NYS ... as long as your pistol doesn’t accidentally fall into it !
I've owned for a year now and used it at various NY ranges from upstate to downstate and no one has ever harassed me about it.
