Full-Auto...Utah Police..damn.
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If you fucked up and can't do the time just kill yourself and save everyone the trouble.
The full auto burst was effective at least.
Engagement of fast moving/fleeting targets is one of the main uses of full auto fire afterall.
The full auto burst was effective at least.
Engagement of fast moving/fleeting targets is one of the main uses of full auto fire afterall.
Get some!!!!!!
We need the Get Some Guy to do flyovers over California.
GOYABEAN
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Uzi
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It's hard to tell exactly what he's holding, but that sound and cyclic rate is distinctive to the mp5 9mm. Nothing surprising about certain police carrying automatic weapons, it's nothing new.
Robin
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Um, I think he got em.
robin
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gun_slinger_boy
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It's hard to tell exactly what he's holding, but that sound and cyclic rate is distinctive to the mp5 9mm. Nothing surprising about certain police carrying automatic weapons, it's nothing new.
Yeah it's an mp5.
Wait why wouldn't police have access to full auto?
Wait you are suprised that cops have full auto?
ECU Pirates
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Because it's not that useful for law enforcement situations? Or most military applications either.
C3D
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It's hard to tell exactly what he's holding, but that sound and cyclic rate is distinctive to the mp5 9mm. Nothing surprising about certain police carrying automatic weapons, it's nothing new.
Your hearing is spot on for that. It’s an MP5A2, clearly visible in the last 3 frames of the vid.
What does that have to do with anything
ECU Pirates
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I guess everyone likes toys.
It obviously worked here.
ECU Pirates
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Semi could have also. Or your favorite.... a shotgun
Blunderbuss, shotgun, same difference. 
Marine Cpl
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A grenade would have worked too.
Disagree, particularly on the second point. I advocate for the complete deregulation of full auto guns. That said the usefulness of fully automatic fire is inversely proportional to the legal liabilities of the shooter.
ECU Pirates
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I never said anything about regulation. I'm saying full auto is not that useful for a rifleman (not talking machine gunner in a military setting).
The modern automatic rifle/carbine allows you to act as an ersatz machinegunner. In a tight spot you can use long bursts to suppress the enemy, or you can use short bursts to increase your hit probability. It offers flexibility that semi automatic only arms lack. There is a reason that military small arms have evolved the way they have, there is a reason for the 5.56x45, 5.45x39 and 5.8x42 and a reason for why they have endured despite constant criticism. It was learned decades ago that the main determining factor in a fire fight is who can get the most lead in the air. Now the civilian shooter requires much more precision. Legal liabilities and constraints in ammo supply demand a greater economy of fire so fully automatic fire is not as important, tactically speaking.
MP5’s are a dream to shoot, even on f/a. They are not hard to control at all.
ECU Pirates
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That is incorrect. You don't win that way anymore (maybe it worked in the past). Running out of lead projectiles is not the way to win. Machine gunners exist for a reason.
Don't take my word for it. This guy should know a bit more on the topic:
Full Auto: Not the Way to Go
and weight is the main reason for the smaller calibers.
ECU Pirates
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Nothing would have happened even if there was.
ECU Pirates
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I have no experience with them. 9mm and heavy would make it seem that way!
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Maybe it's an Army thing? In the Marines we were taught that only the automatic rifleman (Saw Gunner or 240 Gunner) fires automatic for suppression. Everyone else (Rifleman) take well placed shots for maximum hit probability.
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Disagree.
Robin
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Maybe things have changed but a fire team would have one, maybe two guys as designated auto gunners, the rest of course had the option but kept it on semi. There were fire teams with the M60, but without the lighter SAW, riflemen were assigned that role with their M16 in regular fire teams. Rock n' roll hoochy coo!
Robin
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swilliams
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Unfortunately, he also hit a man who had run out of gas on the side of the road, and a truck with four kids in it. No one in the truck was injured. The man was hit in the shoulder and will be fine.
On a side note, Nephi - where the initial stop happened - is the exit where you get off the highway to get to my dad and stepmom's place. Spanish Fork is where my mom lives. Can you imagine if it had been one of my relatives hit by the rapid fire?
On a side note, Nephi - where the initial stop happened - is the exit where you get off the highway to get to my dad and stepmom's place. Spanish Fork is where my mom lives. Can you imagine if it had been one of my relatives hit by the rapid fire?