Higgins and Meng Introduce Legislation to Prohibit the Sale and Transfer of Body Armor to Potential Mass Shooters
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GTN
.308 Win
And how do they know who will be a mass shooter?
pshift
.338 Win Mag
If it takes them 10 years to trace that sale and 'potential' becomes 'reality', then go for it. We will be long gone before this law becomes useful. Political pandering at it's best.
livingston
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AR500 Level III Body Armor Plate
The AR500 Body Armor Level III Heritage Plate features a FragLock base coat, patented Advanced Shooters Cut shape, steel alloy blend material, additional room for rifle stocks and a right and left-handed configuration.
lapolicegear.com
I thought that law was in effect already ?
subsonic
.44 mag
You and everyone else, of course. Specifically "civilians unless they meet specific employment exemptions such as law enforcement or active-duty military personnel." In other words all civilians and then some. No protection for proles!
Deplorable Me
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Sometimes the government is the mass shooter.
Acer-m14
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hell the ATF is using AR500 mickey mouse gongs for chest plates LOL
Considering how many recent "mass shooters" have been known to the NYSP and/or Fedbois, yeah.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Government applies to world wide and historical situations as well.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
the government will prohibit the sale or transfer of Ferrari's because of the potential of them going really fast
Cavalry
.308 Win
When was the last time there was an incident where the asshole having armor even was a factor? North Hollywood, 1997?
ManualF150
.308 Win
This type of nonsense agenda pairs right up with silencers bans... does absolutely nothing.
livingston
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1075tech
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Sooo......When the criminal is shooting, it's an AR-15 assault rifle. When 5-0 was running in, the SAME RIFLE was a long gun.
idiots
Acer-m14
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i'm pretty sure that every state already has a law for using body armor in commission of a crime
yep .
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but keep on passing laws ..
Cavalry
.308 Win
I guess 'mass shooting' is getting more and more flexible in definition? What happened to 4 or more?
My point was not that a shooter had armor, but that the police were unable to stop the person because of it.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Huh, maybe thats why that black sedan followed me home from the auto parts store.
Robin
Robin
There is an upcharge for wearing body armor during a crime. Been that way for years.So this is good to go ?AR500 Level III Body Armor Plate
The AR500 Body Armor Level III Heritage Plate features a FragLock base coat, patented Advanced Shooters Cut shape, steel alloy blend material, additional room for rifle stocks and a right and left-handed configuration.
I thought that law was in effect already ?
They passed a law that made soft armor illegal to buy or sell years ago. Then they passed a law after the Buffalo shooting that did the same for hard armor. You could own them if you already had them, but buying or selling was made illegal.
The kicker in this one is "The bill would prohibit the sale, transfer or possession of enhanced body armor by civilians...". So, if this passes, anyone that currently owns body armor will become a criminal.
Edit: I stand corrected. I just read the actual text of the bill, and there is a Grandfathering of anyone that legally owns body armor before the effective date. I guess they just want to be able to fuck over anyone without a receipt, or someone who buys out of state.
Edit 2: Holy shit! "(c) PENALTIES.—Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: "Whoever knowingly violates section 932 18 shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.’’." Yeah, up to 10 years for owning hard plates after the effective date......
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Acer-m14
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???? you sure .. only special Class is exempt like normal
New York
Body armor cannot be purchased in the state of New York unless you work within a profession approved for ownership of body armor such as law enforcement."
§ 270.21 Unlawful purchase of body armor.
A person is guilty of the unlawful purchase of body armor when, not
being engaged or employed in an eligible profession, they knowingly
purchase or take possession of body armor, as such term is defined in
subdivision two of section 270.20 of this article. This section shall
not apply to individuals or entities engaged or employed in eligible
professions, which shall include police officers as defined in section
1.20 of the criminal procedure law, peace officers as defined in section
2.10 of the criminal procedure law, persons in military service in the
state of New York or military or other service for the United States,
and such other professions designated by the department of state in
accordance with section one hundred forty-four-a of the executive law.
As sure as I am of anything in NYS law.... in other words, sort of, but not really
I thought the law above is the first one they shoved through that covered soft armor, but it seems it isn't. Only the more equal can buy, or take possession of new body armor. That law bans the sale, purchase, or delivery of body armor, not the simple fact that you have it.
Edit: They refer to 270.20, which is the add on charge for violent felonies while wearing anything bullet resistant.
Acer-m14
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As sure as I am of anything in NYS law.... in other words, sort of, but not really
I thought the law above is the first one they shoved through that covered soft armor, but it seems it isn't. Only the more equal can buy, or take possession of new body armor. That law bans the sale, purchase, or delivery of body armor, not the simple fact that you have it.
Edit: They refer to 270.20, which is the add on charge for violent felonies while wearing anything bullet resistant.
i still have not received a Copy of the actual current LAW in the mail ...
but I'm Supposed to know the LAW . . LMAO ..
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The rule of lenity is a principle used in criminal law, also called rule of strict construction, stating that when a law is unclear or ambiguous, the court should apply it in the way that is most favorable to the defendant, or to construe the statute against the state. The rule of lenity stems from two constitutional objectives: first, the separation of powers, as it limits the scope of statutory language in penal statutes and does not allow the courts to establish the contours of a crime and its punishment. Second, the rule of lenity stems from the wish to “protect the legislature’s constitutional lawmaking prerogative, and to limit the courts’ encroachment on a legislative function”. "
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Well, they haven't passed it yet, so there's still plenty of time for them to fuck with it some more, and make it even worse.i still have not received a Copy of the actual current LAW in the mail ...
but I'm Supposed to know the LAW . . LMAO ..
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rule of lenity
The rule of lenity is a principle used in criminal law, also called rule of strict construction, stating that when a law is unclear or ambiguous, the court should apply it in the way that is most favorable to the defendant, or to construe the statute against the state. The rule of lenity stems from two constitutional objectives: first, the separation of powers, as it limits the scope of statutory language in penal statutes and does not allow the courts to establish the contours of a crime and its punishment. Second, the rule of lenity stems from the wish to “protect the legislature’s constitutional lawmaking prerogative, and to limit the courts’ encroachment on a legislative function”. "
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