Isolate the Feds

[Paxal]

We all know that the federal gov’t is too big and out of control. So, how to control it? How to make is more answerable to the people again? There are many possible solutions - all of which should be looked at. But, the idea of taking back local authority - on the state or evcen the county level is an important one. Consolidation of power at the federal level is what has allowed this cesspool of corruption to gain so much influence. So, I had an idea. It may be a stupid one, I don’t know. But here it is:
Turn the collection and processing of all taxes over to local or even state governments. Have county or state authorities collect and pay federal taxes to Washington and in so doing get rid of the IRS. Making payments via states and counties gives them far more leverage with the federal gov’t than any individual or even group of individuals could have. It would also bring control of the taxing authority closer to “we the people” and (theoretically) make it easier to monitor and control. The states could more easily get together and choke off the supply of money to the federal gov’t if needed, and if the feds threatened to cut off money to the states for their actions - who cares? The states/counties would already have the money.
Is there a chance this idea, if implemented could totally blow up? Absolutely (FUAC?)!!! It was just an idea that occurred to me as being something that might help if well implemented. Also, rather than organizing a “tax revolt” that would never succeed because the IRS would come after everyone involved - if the counties/states collected the money and held it “in escrow” there is no one for the IRS to come after. Again, YES this could be a stupid idea, so spare me the “that’s a stupid idea” posts. It’s just something to think about and maybe expand on.

 

[Saltwater60]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again if enough people just stopped paying taxes they would be fucked. We should all just claim exempt and shutdown the government.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

You'd have to be willing to go up against your local authorities before going up against the feds. Who will be coming for your house and car when you fail to pay taxes on them? Local authorities. How do you prevent that? By working and making money. What do you have to do when you work? Pay federal taxes. How do you not pay federal taxes? You don't work. It's a vicious cycle catch 22 type thing. Short of everyone making money off the books I don't see a solution.

 

[Tisto]

If you really want to lessen the power of Federal authorities, de-centralize them. Take them all out of DC. Bureau of Land Management ? Move it to Montana. National Oceanic Association of America ? Rhode Island. Dept. of the Interior - Kansas. You get the point. A big part of the problem is that all these unknown and unnamed bureaucrats are in the same town, eating at the same restaurants, drinking at the same bars with all the other unknown bureaucrats. This is how everything gets so intertwined. As a single issue could be handled by one beaurocracy, it is now covered by several. None of which will claim complete jurisdiction, further entrenching themselves in the cycle.

 

[Saltwater60]

You'd have to be willing to go up against your local authorities before going up against the feds. Who will be coming for your house and car when you fail to pay taxes on them? Local authorities. How do you prevent that? By working and making money. What do you have to do when you work? Pay federal taxes. How do you not pay federal taxes? You don't work. It's a vicious cycle catch 22 type thing. Short of everyone making money off the books I don't see a solution.

No. I just said claim exempt on your federal taxes. If we all did it for a year they wouldn’t be able to pay anyone to come take everyone’s homes. If we all claimed expert who would be able to buy the house they tried to confiscate from me?
That’s the problem is getting enough people to do it at once.

 

[Paxal]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again if enough people just stopped paying taxes they would be fucked. We should all just claim exempt and shutdown the government.

Agreed, but doing that leaves you vulnerable to the IRS. Individuals are vulnerable. States are not.

 

[Paxal]

You'd have to be willing to go up against your local authorities before going up against the feds. Who will be coming for your house and car when you fail to pay taxes on them? Local authorities. How do you prevent that? By working and making money. What do you have to do when you work? Pay federal taxes. How do you not pay federal taxes? You don't work. It's a vicious cycle catch 22 type thing. Short of everyone making money off the books I don't see a solution.

Let the county or the state handle federal tax payments, and withold them if the people demand it.