GOYABEAN
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Jacob Blake: Kenosha police officer shoots man during 'domestic incident'
One man was air flighted to an area hospital after he was shot by a Kenosha police officer Sunday evening, police say.
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Man injured after officer-involved shooting in Kenosha
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FrankenCub
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Seems you brought the popcorn I'll supply the beer!
Make a party of it and watch cities burn some more.
Make a party of it and watch cities burn some more.
And, once again, no details about the incident other than the usual "excessive police response" B.S. that is automatically trotted out every time.
I shall reserve judgement until the facts are finally presented (if ever).
I shall reserve judgement until the facts are finally presented (if ever).
I watched the video. Looks bad on the surface. Unless he was reaching for a weapon in the car, the cops will likely have a problem. The cop fired like 7 shots at point blank range at his back while holding on to his shirt tail. Not sure how he is still alive unless the cop missed badly.
Of course, the Wisconsin governor chimed in. Even worse, as he is quoted, it reads like he has declared not just this cop, but cops in general to be killing black men regularly.
I spent time drinking in Kenosha when I was stationed at the Great Lakes Naval base in North Chicago nearby. It’s a rough blue collar area. It will be interesting to see what happens now. As of last night there were already signs of anger and violence beginning. And it is smack dab between Chicago and Milwaukee.
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Of course, the Wisconsin governor chimed in. Even worse, as he is quoted, it reads like he has declared not just this cop, but cops in general to be killing black men regularly.
I spent time drinking in Kenosha when I was stationed at the Great Lakes Naval base in North Chicago nearby. It’s a rough blue collar area. It will be interesting to see what happens now. As of last night there were already signs of anger and violence beginning. And it is smack dab between Chicago and Milwaukee.
Police-involved shooting in Wisconsin prompts violent protest: report
Violent protests erupted after the shooting
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A scary situation and a good shoot. Guy made a clear deliberate decision to retrieve something from his car while already at gunpoint and not following commands. The fact that he was at gunpoint from the start shows that he was already out of control and a safety threat to others. One can reasonably believe he was on a clear path to retrieve a weapon from the vehicle. He wasn’t going for a bologna sandwich. There were also children in the vehicle that were at risk from his actions. Once again a situation that could have been avoided by complying with basic instructions. When will these idiots learn?
For the life of me I will never understand why people don't freeze and comply when a cop points a gun at you. What was this guy thinking? That doesn't mean this is necessarily a good shoot. I want to know more about what preceded it and if their was a weapon in the car. Madness.
The lack of a weapon doesn’t really mean much. You don’t know what he verbally said and regardless if a weapon was in the car or not the action was threatening especially given the circumstances. What if he said he was going to kill the kids? What if he said he was getting his gun? Behaving like that while at gunpoint leads the officers to reasonably believe he is going for a weapon and justifies the shooting. You don’t have to wait to be looking down a barrel or until x shots have been fired at you or the kids in order to eliminate the threat. Were the officers in fear for their lives or the lives of others including the kids in the car? A reasonable person would say yes.
libertysnake
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Going to have to agree that there could be a total circumstance to make the officers on edge. This wasn’t like the guy was complying and was shot or something. He was moving fast and going for something in the vehicle and disobeying commands.
Either way rioting will happen under the guise of justice.
I have never been a fan of second guessing the police in situations like this one here. I will not start today.
Good or bad on the part of the officer matters little in this video; I blame this ignorant black man. Simple instructions that apparently he did not have the brain power to comprehend.
He would not have been shot if he listened to the near 100 times the officers told him to get down, drop the knife and relax.
As for the riots that occurring in this community, think it is far away? Every American community is going to feel this, the war will come into your backyard sooner or later.
Good or bad on the part of the officer matters little in this video; I blame this ignorant black man. Simple instructions that apparently he did not have the brain power to comprehend.
He would not have been shot if he listened to the near 100 times the officers told him to get down, drop the knife and relax.
As for the riots that occurring in this community, think it is far away? Every American community is going to feel this, the war will come into your backyard sooner or later.
MothMan
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holdover
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I will hazard a guess that what that guy saw in the past few weeks lead him to believe that the police were to afraid of losing their jobs to do anything about it. People spitting punching kicking throwing rocks looting vandalism, destruction of statues , violence, Trying to provoke a deadly response which would give them legitimacy in the news. The Police response was nearly non existent. The fool misread this as he could do anything , the police lost their ability to police. My guess is that he believed the police could or would not do a dam thing, Maybe he was at the riots and saw this first hand, , I dont know. It looks like he completely misjudged the situation .
Robin
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The political handlers have pretty much told the police to stand down, they have. The political handlers in NY and NYC have done the same thing, except for fund raising.
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This kind of thinking reflects the problem at hand.
"The fact that he was at gunpoint from the start shows that he was already out of control..." fails to even consider whether the cops were in the wrong, fails to consider what occurred before the video began and demonstrates blind pro-cop bias.
Can you articulate a reasonable and specific suspicion that the police were in the wrong from the start? Please include all of the details. The burden is not on them to prove they were right. It is on you to prove they were wrong. From everything the video shows it was a good shoot. Seems like you have a pro-criminal bias.
If I am not mistaken, the Police were there due to a call of another domestic violence inceident caused, again, by this guy. As the story was told, he had a weapon in his hand., He responded none to the orders of the Police. I have heard that the Police gave this asshole more than 100 chances to stop and to drop the weapon. Yeah, guns were out.
Who's your source? Do share.
Gimme a couple of minutes. I'll retrace my browsing of earlier.
Know this though, I really wish that all of the shootings would stop. You know, Police in the US shoot more people in a typical day that England shoots in a year?
Wonder why that is....
An objective and reasonable person would not make absolutist statements like you did concerning whether the cops were justified in their behavior. Particularly if based on the clip of video under discussion.
Ok so you have no information and were just talking out of your ass. Sounds good. I'm sure all of the cops on scene had their guns out for no just reason. That seems like a reasonable conclusion to draw based on nothing at all. Carry on.
Update: Kenosha Officer Involved Shooting | Wisconsin Department of Justice
Man Shot by Police in Kenosha Was Wanted for Sexual Assault
Jacob Blake, the 29-year-old black man shot by police in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was wanted on charges of sexual assault.
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Kenosha Man Shot While Resisting Arrest Was Wanted on Felony Sex Crime Charge, Has Extensive Criminal History - Big League Politics
They're burning the city over him.
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This is what I have thus far.
I will post more in a bit.
Watching the video of the shooting will show that he was not listening to the simple, very simple commands.
Regardless if this goes down as good or bad, the guy shot is too blame for this incident. Typical actually, typical and sad.
You're digging a hole for yourself.
I didn't opine on whether the cops were justified, because there is not enough info in that video.
I pointed out your statement as problematic, because, well you are talking out your ass. Good phrase.
Except his past arrest/conviction record and the warrants that were out for his arrest for sexual assault and robbery.
Besides that, great citizen...
