The eight-pound weapon has greater range than the M4 (about 550 meters for a point target), a 30-round magazine, and semi-automatic and automatic modes.
I don't either. 1 per fireteam like they've been fielding is enough. Perhaps they just want uniformity.I don't see the benefit for the extra $2k a piece.
None of which is needed in an infantry carbine.It has a 16.5 inch barrel, picatinny quad rails, an integrated bipod, and other doohickeys like a full sized rifle buffer system.
This system was supposed to be for an Automatic Gunner/ Designated Marksman. Now they'll all have it.None of which is needed in an infantry carbine.
Never been a fan of HKs AR patterns. Too heavy, too expensive for too little (if any) benefit.This system was supposed to be for an Automatic Gunner/ Designated Marksman. Now they'll all have it.
Who cares right? if one is going to get a short stroke piston this is the one to get and ourI don't see the benefit for the extra $2k a piece.
Yes it is like an ar on the outside.This is just another AR right? What am I missing here?
Yes. The internals are better but they still do the same job.
It's not worth the price. If money is no option, sure why not? But obviously it is if they can't afford to outfit the entire service. The M16a2's and a4's worked just fine after being submerged in water after many practice beach landings.Can other systems do the same in many situations? yes
Can other systems do the same in all situations? No
The SS piston and overall quality sets them apart in terms of heat specially the bolt
and extreme situations like after being submerged in water.
The Marines did. The M27 replaced it due to its full auto capability. Now they want to outfit every Marine with one.Get rid of the Saw 249, It was a Jamomatic! Box Mags would break under abuse to much.
Wasn't meant to run on box mags. That was only ever an emergency provision. They ran great on belts for me.Get rid of the Saw 249, It was a Jamomatic! Box Mags would break under abuse to much.
Shows my age! LOLThe Marines did. The M27 replaced it due to its full auto capability. Now they want to outfit every Marine with one.
Optics are separate if I'm not mistaken.When you consider what you get in the box is not expensive.
Those optics alone are almost 1/2 of the cost. Same with the LMT weapons system.
The H&K never jams that is why they are so popular. They are not more accurate but
they run cooler and can take a lot more heat due to the SS piston.
Still they need to be well lubed and maintained like anything else.
Plus one also pays for the service that is amazing for any customers specially military.
FN sucks dick to military and LE but if you are private you are screwed. they suck at that.
Nobody can beat glock at that even with their reasonable price points.
Optics are separate if I'm not mistaken.
Accuracy is not particularly desirable for automatic suppresive fire. It is more desirable to have a larger beaten zone.The other thing is that they have been carefully planning this for many years and looking at the
tactics other marines are using with lighter and more accurate platforms like these exercises with
the Marines from Spain...
US, Spanish Marines train together in Sierra del Retin > Marine Corps Forces Europe > News Article Display
There is always a trade off but all gunners favor the 13lbs weight reduction from the heavy saw.
Even the lighter spanish minimi at 18lbs is not as effective as a more accurate DSS like H&K can provide.
One doesn't need so much gun and so many bullets to get more hits and closer to the enemy.
36 RPM + 800 is plenty with some new tactics. An any marine is going to bet on accuracy vs. rate of fire
any day.
Going from 4-5moa to 1.5-2MOA is a huge thing and any marine is going to bet on accuracy vs. higher rate of fire. Effectiveness comes first.
I and I would bet almost every SAW Gunner that has actually ran with one would probably agree that you are more effective at the fireteam level without a SAW. The SAW Gunner slows the fireteam down. He cannot really engage in room clearing. He has a harder time climbing walls, going through windows, ECT.Accuracy is not particularly desirable for automatic suppresive fire. It is more desirable to have a larger beaten zone.
What are the Marines going to do when all the M27 receivers are shot after 50k rounds?
Besides, a true comparison can't be made between a belt fed, quick change barrel proper machinegun and an automatic carbine.
Accuracy is not particularly desirable for automatic suppresive fire. It is more desirable to have a larger beaten zone.
What are the Marines going to do when all the M27 receivers are shot after 50k rounds?
Besides, a true comparison can't be made between a belt fed, quick change barrel proper machinegun and an automatic carbine.