Rosendale, NY Traffic Stop Leads To Weapon Arrest !

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  1. GOYABEAN

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  2. Acer-m14

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    wow .. didn't know a Glock could handle a 30 rounder LOL ..

    Please start posting there whole write up .. I hate giving them visit clicks LOL ..
     
  3. GTN

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  4. C3D

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    There is a big difference between Rosedale (Queens) and Rosendale (upstate)!
     
  5. GOPerfect

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    Gotta be more to the story with a bond that high. How about all the other charges???
     
  6. Bob

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    His charges were CPW3 (presumably for the magazine) and CPW2 (presumably for the handgun w/o a permit). That's all the sheriff's office reported.
     
  7. nortatoga

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    Flight risk?
     
  8. GOPerfect

    GOPerfect .338 Win Mag LEO / LEA

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    Pop

    Bail/bond seems way to high for those charges.
     
  9. Bob

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    Agreed. According to his LinkedIn page, he is (or at least was) employed in town. No history in the DOCCS lookup, but that doesn't preclude him from having any history. Looks like he has extensive family in the area too. If he was much of a problem during arrest, it at least would have been reported.
     
  10. Greywolf224

    Greywolf224 6.5 Creedmoor

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    Wow...Close to home.
    Curious to see what else is not being divulged.
     
  11. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    Not many details other than searching a passenger.
     
  12. GOPerfect

    GOPerfect .338 Win Mag LEO / LEA

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    This might be one of those times that people need to know, and understand their Rights. If he agreed to the search, then all is good.
     
  13. Willjr75

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    If he agreed to a search and the 2A didn't include the right to bear handguns, then correct. All is good.
     
  14. nortatoga

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    Ulster County Sheriff’s deputies stopped the vehicle just before 3 p.m. on Sunday, January 7 and found a passenger, Matthew Harder, 25, had in his possession a loaded Glock 9mm handgun without a permit. He was also found to possess a loaded 30-round magazine. Harder was sent to the Ulster County Jail in lieu of $30,000 bond.


    What part of possession of a handgun without a permit did you not understand?
     
  15. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    I guess I missed that part in the Constitution. Can you point that out to me in the Constitution?
     
  16. nortatoga

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    Yes it's in the Heller v DC ruling! I underlined it in my signature below! Which at this time is the law of the land! Weather you agree or not!

    Why do you have a pistol license, if you don't believe you should need one! Turn it in and good buy one in some back ally!
     
  17. Greywolf224

    Greywolf224 6.5 Creedmoor

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    I am not an LEO so I honestly have no clue and thank God never had to post any bail for me or anyone in my family.

    So the question is is a $30,000 bail bond normal for an Arrest under these circumstances?

    @GOPerfect Help me to understand. Would Bail be set differently based on whether I consent search or not? Would the outcome of the arrest be different whether I consented to a search for not?
     
  18. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    Because I'm held by the balls if I want to protect myself and my family without going to jail. Let's not get into this corrupt court thing again. It's tiring.
     
  19. nortatoga

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    The Court argument is tiring? You would have liked it to go the other way?
     
  20. Willjr75

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    I would have liked it to go as intended. Shall not be infringed to keep (possess) and bear (carry).

    If the decision went by the Constitution it would have done away with NICS and permits altogether.
     
  21. nortatoga

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    You didn't read the history of gun laws at the time and before the 2A was written!
     
  22. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    You didn't read the Declaration of Independence I gather either.
     
  23. nortatoga

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    I have and just refresh myself and reread it! Where does it say CCW is a right? I seemed to have missed it!

    Declaration of Independence is just that a Declaration not a Law!!
     
  24. Willjr75

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    It says that once a government becomes tyrannical it is the duty of the people to abolish it. The British had their gun control on the colonists. How do you do that without arms? Then the war was won and the Bill of Rights was written afterwards. It's really that simple.

    There is no difference between pistols and long guns in regards to arms.

    Irregardless, whatever the laws were before the revolution, they did not apply when the new government was born. It says arms shall not be infringed. Unless you think pistols aren't arms and the Sullivan Act isn't an infringement.
     
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  25. nortatoga

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    Do you really think that all pre-revolutionary war laws were abolished?
     
  26. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    What is it that your are trying to tell me? What is your MO? Are you telling me that the 2A doesn't really mean what it says?
     
  27. nortatoga

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    No pre-revolutionary laws against concealed weapons excepted!!
     
  28. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    Ok. I'm tired. Sure thing Mr. Nichols.
     
  29. nortatoga

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    Sure tired of being proved wrong! At least Mr. Nichols understands the Constitution and how the Courts work!
     
  30. Willjr75

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    Yep. He sure does. Because there 2A clearly states that the right to keep and openly bear arms shall not be infringed.
     
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