SAFE ACT Update: 83,000+ Pistol Permit Holders Have Already Recertified ?
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Exonautic
.308 Win
Nothing like re-affirming that New York may use your rights as a door mat.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
we still have 10 months before we get in trouble, with any luck I'll win the lottery and be outa here by then......sadly, Im planning on Recerts in January 2018
Bananabandit
.338 Win Mag
I cant rush into anything. Thats when mistakes are made.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
I plan on adding several items to my permit before next January so I'm in no hurry.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
After thinking about this and discussing at length, I have come to the conclusion that if you are planning to purchase or sell any handguns in the near future, then there is nothing wrong with registering early. Since there is no provision for updating the already FUBAR Records of all 62 Counties, and here is why I say this: Lets say you register tomorrow. You dutifully list the six handguns your own on their form and mail it in. The day after you mail it, you sell two of your guns and purchase two more. Based on the system they threw together, you won't have to register the new purchases until 2022. Right? So before your paper work is delivered to the Gun Squad, it is already FUBAR. LOL
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
Exactly why the whole f***ing system is one BIG f***ing joke, along with all those who proposed, encouraged, and supported it
4excal
.338 Win Mag
I still got nodda 
4excal
.338 Win Mag
What's 83,000... 5% ?? Lol (and no I really don't know)
Exonautic
.308 Win
if not less, but they didn't want to scare the little snowflakes with how many guns are actually in this state.
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
Still haven't received any sort of notification in the mail.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Is the assumption that they're 83,000 real certification submissions? Keep in mind, during the Canadian gun registration project thousands of grease guns, squirt guns and nail guns were submitted for registration. Have your 8 year old fill out a few forms and mail em in, specially the ones that shoot .40 caliber Legos. Know a local gang banger, submit one for them as well.
neither have I.
Mine will be going out the very last day possible, possibly in a box. Gotta make sure it's nice and padded so nothing happens to it.
capitalcrew
.44 mag
Bet @Darth is on the list
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
Mine won't go in at all, you see, y'all, I am moving to TX late spring. haha sucker NYers, cry your eyes out. Get used to the Gulag, next year you will be asking permission to buy red underwear. hahaha suckahs y'all go cry a river. hahahaha
I bet not.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Good thing you don't gloat.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Yay. Hooray. I did receive a letter from the state police a month ago or so. Maybe I should open it and take a look. I just assumed they were congratulating me for exercising my second amendment rights here in NY.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
My theory on why it was implemented is as follows....
Paperwork. Everytime you buy a pistol, your county by law sends them the paperwork. They are buried knee deep in it. They don't know what you have unless they look for it in a box somewhere. Then you have the dead people who they don't know are no longer here and those that moved to another address or out of state.
So how can they update their records? They can hire a bunch of people to go through all those boxes of paper from the million or so gun owners that have made multiple amendments throughout the years or you can do it for them online.
Most will do it online for convenience rather then physically filling it out and physically getting to a post office and standing in line. That's what they are banking on.
If everyone mailed it in however, they'd be in worse shape than before.
Paperwork. Everytime you buy a pistol, your county by law sends them the paperwork. They are buried knee deep in it. They don't know what you have unless they look for it in a box somewhere. Then you have the dead people who they don't know are no longer here and those that moved to another address or out of state.
So how can they update their records? They can hire a bunch of people to go through all those boxes of paper from the million or so gun owners that have made multiple amendments throughout the years or you can do it for them online.
Most will do it online for convenience rather then physically filling it out and physically getting to a post office and standing in line. That's what they are banking on.
If everyone mailed it in however, they'd be in worse shape than before.
I likes paper. Can't use me enough of it... FUAC!
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Sad anal sheep in a hurry. Those who cannot sleep unless all is in order.
On another note:
The NYSP did us no service on that paper form as it cannot be used on a computer and saved. They failed Adobe PDF school as it has to be printed out and then hand written. It should of used form fields that we could accurately type in all the information. Their meetings on getting shit done must really suck.
So what happens in the next five years when you buy more guns? Is going to the county office all that is still needed?
On another note:
The NYSP did us no service on that paper form as it cannot be used on a computer and saved. They failed Adobe PDF school as it has to be printed out and then hand written. It should of used form fields that we could accurately type in all the information. Their meetings on getting shit done must really suck.
So what happens in the next five years when you buy more guns? Is going to the county office all that is still needed?
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Clusterfuck 2.0
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The county still handles your amendments. Every 5 years, you will have to deal with the state.
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
So for a five year period, the NYSP rely that counties update them with new gun data? There must be some kind of secret database in place for this as county person types away in some kind of computer when I come there and I am watching them work at my county? Whats that called? Where are guns and serials kept? Is it direct to BATF?
S&W Fan
.450/400 Nitro Ex
According to my county clerk, yes
Shoots100
.357 mag
I really don't give a fuck and recertified the day after I got the notice.
I'm on every list they have and have been on those lists before Cuomo became dictator.
They only know what's on my permit from that date and not the handguns I've purchased and sold since then.
What NY gun owners should really be concerned about, are the new questions being asked to the FFL's on the 4473 registration forms now.
The Feds are much more devious than any NY dictator will ever be !
I'm on every list they have and have been on those lists before Cuomo became dictator.
They only know what's on my permit from that date and not the handguns I've purchased and sold since then.
What NY gun owners should really be concerned about, are the new questions being asked to the FFL's on the 4473 registration forms now.
The Feds are much more devious than any NY dictator will ever be !
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I wonder what it would do to their records if a bunch of motivated jerks started filling out registration forms with random names out of the phone book, random pistol permit numbers and nonsense for guns.
That might make their recert registry as useless as the one they have now.
That might make their recert registry as useless as the one they have now.