As a structured community they did. Not as solo nomads.Native Americans lived off the land most of their known existence. It's possible, just not easy.
I think it's more important to have a group of people that you can trust to help each other survive.
Ill watch that vid, I do watch many of his videos. But to your point, I think anyone who has SERIOUSLY thought about long term survivql in an shtf scenario knows thats not realistic.Folks Many different forums have people stating they will live off the land in the wilderness when a SHTF situation starts. ... Perhaps for a few months it is possible ... But long term everything wears out and few would make it. without some kind of resupply from civilization ..
I agree, that is why I made that second statement.As a structured community they did. Not as solo nomads.
For starters yes. Actual “ Long Term” you’d need many more than a doz. people. A small tribe would be much more beneficial.Ill watch that vid, I do watch many of his videos. But to your point, I think anyone who has SERIOUSLY thought about long term survivql in an shtf scenario knows thats not realistic.
Unless you live in an area so remote that you wont find other humans, or that over time other humans wont find you it would be very hard to survive by only hunting and whats in a backpack.
Imo, to survive long term you need a group of at least 12 or more as you need around the clock security. You need to be able to grow your own food, prep/store it for off season, you need a well rounded group with different skills. The list for long term survival goes on and on.
For starters yes. Actual “ Long Term” you’d need many more than a doz. people. A small tribe would be much more beneficial.
I'm pretty much going to die staring into my gun safe because I won't be able to decide which one to take.
The pinnacle of the solo nomads were probably the early American fur traders.As a structured community they did. Not as solo nomads.
Figure that out ahead of timeI'm pretty much going to die staring into my gun safe because I won't be able to decide which one to take.
As a structured community they did. Not as solo nomads.
That's a zero sum game. There's always someone badder than you.My longterm SHTF/TEOTWAWKI plans involve predation of other humans so.........
Luckier than you...That's a zero sum game. There's always someone badder than you.
Yes, or luckier than you as well. Or maybe you piss off the wrong person. Someone start acting like a predator... great, what happens when that person's relative or whatever gets wind of it? People always find out, not a matter of if but when. If someone thinks acting like a sociopath is the way well....Luckier than you...
In 1492 there were between 7 to 10 million Native Americans north of Rio Grande. They were distributed among 600 plus tribes and had the entire continent and its natural resources just for themselves.Native Americans lived off the land most of their known existence. It's possible, just not easy.
I think it's more important to have a group of people that you can trust to help each other survive.
In 1492 there were between 7 to 10 million Native Americans north of Rio Grande. They were distributed among 600 plus tribes and had the entire continent and its natural resources just for themselves.
Were are now the millions of heads of game that roamed the great planes including the North American Buffalo?
If many people wanted to live off the land hunting and gathering and doing bushcraft today we would have two main problems:
1 - we would not have enough land
2 - we would not have access to enough resources including fresh water, fuel and food.
Our best bet would be to go back to the systems that allows us to survive as species in tribes and villages but taking to farming and animals so we could return to sustainable yet very modest microeconomies while natural resources might get a chance of certain recovery.
It would be very hard but possible like the Amish..
These systems will come back as we consuming with no end will have to stop by depletion..
Something has to budge. Simple math.
Well, we would be back to 10 million humans living north of the Rio Grand pretty quick in that sort of world.In 1492 there were between 7 to 10 million Native Americans north of Rio Grande. They were distributed among 600 plus tribes and had the entire continent and its natural resources just for themselves.
Were are now the millions of heads of game that roamed the great planes including the North American Buffalo?
If many people wanted to live off the land hunting and gathering and doing bushcraft today we would have two main problems:
1 - we would not have enough land
2 - we would not have access to enough resources including fresh water, fuel and food.
Our best bet would be to go back to the systems that allows us to survive as species in tribes and villages but taking to farming and animals so we could return to sustainable yet very modest microeconomies while natural resources might get a chance of certain recovery.
It would be very hard but possible like the Amish..
These systems will come back as we consuming with no end will have to stop by depletion..
Something has to budge. Simple math.
That's why you select your prey carefully.That's a zero sum game. There's always someone badder than you.
Enough people would make it out of densely populated areas into where the resources are to create huge problems for those who know how to find harmony and balance in those areas with those resources.Well, we would be back to 10 million humans living north of the Rio Grand pretty quick in that sort of world.
It's true though, the 350 million or so people we would lose would do a lot of damage in the month or so they would survive.
Most of them wouldn't make it out of the city though.
Natural ecosystem...Enough people would make it out of densely populated areas into where the resources are to create huge problems for those who know how to find harmony and balance in those areas with those resources.
Even a small percentage we are talking millions of people and huge migrations.
Essentially we have too many humans that cannot be supported by natural ecosystems.
In certain parts of Asia ia the worse on the planet but here we have similar problems should we spread across the land.