Survivors of Florida school shooting plan to sue authorities
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SmallGameAddict
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Well, can't blame them for trying. Tough row to hoe. SCOTUS has ruled in the past law enforcement has no duty or obligation to protect an individual citizen, only the public at large. Maybe because it was a public school failure they'll win. Hope they do.
livingston
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$4.2 million settlement for student paralyzed by bully
$4.2 million settlement for student paralyzed by bully
When Sawyer Rosenstein was 12, a punch from a bully changed his life forever, leaving him paralyzed, and at times, near death from the complications of his condition.
Now, six years after the assault, the New Jersey school board in the district where he was a student has agreed to a $4.2 million settlement.
“It feels really great to finally have just a sense of closure … that this really difficult part of my life is behind me,” Rosenstein, an 18-year-old freshman majoring in communication at Syracuse University, told msnbc.com. “I can actually focus on all of the successful things that I am doing now and all of the successful plans that I have for my future.”
The Rosenstein’s lawyer, Jeffrey Youngman, said the settlement was “absolutely unique.”
“I see stories virtually, if not daily, every other day on bullying and … it’s one of the first stories where there actually was a result that’s positive and truly helps the family,” he told msnbc.com, noting that the Ramsey Board of Education does not admit liability.
“But the facts surrounding this case are unbelievable, I mean they’re dramatic in that you have a child who actually was pro-active” about dealing with the bullying, he said.
Youngman was referring to emails written by Rosenstein to officials at Eric Smith Middle School – a guidance counselor, an assistant principal – about the harassment.
In 2009, the Rosensteins filed their lawsuit against the school board, various administrators, other individuals and the boy who punched Sawyer; the settlement was agreed to at the end of March. Part of the family’s case included claims that school officials knew or should have known that Sawyer’s attacker had violent tendencies, Youngman said, citing prior punching incidents with others. The family settled with that student two years ago. The terms are confidential.
“What the school was doing was just indicative of what the schools do in these instances: they just have policies and don’t know how to enforce them,” Youngman said. “You can have a written policy all you want, but if it is not put into effect and it's not enforced effectively, you’ve got a policy in name only.”
$4.2 million settlement for student paralyzed by bully
Did the school do all it reasonably could to keep their students safe ? You had an unsecured door that he entered .
Then this
Despite committing a string of arrestable offenses on campus before the Florida school shooting, Nikolas Cruz was able to escape the attention of law enforcement, pass a background check and purchase the weapon he used to slaughter three staff members and 14 fellow students because of Obama administration efforts to make school discipline more lenient.
Documents reviewed by RealClearInvestigations and interviews show that his school district in Florida’s Broward County was in the vanguard of a strategy, adopted by more than 50 other major school districts nationwide, allowing thousands of troubled, often violent, students to commit crimes without legal consequence. The aim was to slow the "school-to-prison pipeline."
https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html
Did the school policies and actions in place contribute to the carnage
$4.2 million settlement for student paralyzed by bully
When Sawyer Rosenstein was 12, a punch from a bully changed his life forever, leaving him paralyzed, and at times, near death from the complications of his condition.
Now, six years after the assault, the New Jersey school board in the district where he was a student has agreed to a $4.2 million settlement.
“It feels really great to finally have just a sense of closure … that this really difficult part of my life is behind me,” Rosenstein, an 18-year-old freshman majoring in communication at Syracuse University, told msnbc.com. “I can actually focus on all of the successful things that I am doing now and all of the successful plans that I have for my future.”
The Rosenstein’s lawyer, Jeffrey Youngman, said the settlement was “absolutely unique.”
“I see stories virtually, if not daily, every other day on bullying and … it’s one of the first stories where there actually was a result that’s positive and truly helps the family,” he told msnbc.com, noting that the Ramsey Board of Education does not admit liability.
“But the facts surrounding this case are unbelievable, I mean they’re dramatic in that you have a child who actually was pro-active” about dealing with the bullying, he said.
Youngman was referring to emails written by Rosenstein to officials at Eric Smith Middle School – a guidance counselor, an assistant principal – about the harassment.
In 2009, the Rosensteins filed their lawsuit against the school board, various administrators, other individuals and the boy who punched Sawyer; the settlement was agreed to at the end of March. Part of the family’s case included claims that school officials knew or should have known that Sawyer’s attacker had violent tendencies, Youngman said, citing prior punching incidents with others. The family settled with that student two years ago. The terms are confidential.
“What the school was doing was just indicative of what the schools do in these instances: they just have policies and don’t know how to enforce them,” Youngman said. “You can have a written policy all you want, but if it is not put into effect and it's not enforced effectively, you’ve got a policy in name only.”
$4.2 million settlement for student paralyzed by bully
Did the school do all it reasonably could to keep their students safe ? You had an unsecured door that he entered .
Then this
Despite committing a string of arrestable offenses on campus before the Florida school shooting, Nikolas Cruz was able to escape the attention of law enforcement, pass a background check and purchase the weapon he used to slaughter three staff members and 14 fellow students because of Obama administration efforts to make school discipline more lenient.
Documents reviewed by RealClearInvestigations and interviews show that his school district in Florida’s Broward County was in the vanguard of a strategy, adopted by more than 50 other major school districts nationwide, allowing thousands of troubled, often violent, students to commit crimes without legal consequence. The aim was to slow the "school-to-prison pipeline."
https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html
Did the school policies and actions in place contribute to the carnage
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
If the schools don't voluntarily modify their policies, surely their liability insurance carriers will do it for them.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Isn't it actually a school and government negligence issue? The ball was dropped at various bureaucratic levels and they want to defer blame to 99.99999% of the gun owners who just went about their lives that day.
(Hey liberal trolls and lurkers, do you comprehend the above statement?)
SmallGameAddict
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livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Can this child sue the FBI ... Don't think so. Folks say you cannot sue the police .... The school only other choice ..
Just waiting for the next mass shooting .. The way things been going should be in about another 2 months .. Right before they decide to vote on a gun bill ... After all ... they have to make sure it passes .
Just waiting for the next mass shooting .. The way things been going should be in about another 2 months .. Right before they decide to vote on a gun bill ... After all ... they have to make sure it passes .
What happened to the old way,? Sue the person/people actually responsible for a negative action. You know, in this case, the shooter!
I hate these people!
I hate these people!
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
My best guess: the school has deeper pockets
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
This kid has like 800.,00 in inheritance .. Who gets it first .. His defense lawyers or the folks shot. . The folks that were shot will ask for what .. A million per child .. Lots of money any way one looks at it.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
Didn't anyone fill them in on the fact this has already been to the supreme court and government has no duty to protect you.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
Let's hash this out for a minute... my initial thought is I hope they do win. But if they don't and the ruling by the Supreme Court is used as justification for denying the lawsuit, that should only strengthen an argument for the average citizen to have the right to defend themselves. Perhaps it could be an argument used to defeat the gun free zone laws??? Im no legal eagle so im just throwing some of my own thoughts out there.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
I got no argument with that. However, it has been said, many times, in the past.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
doesn't this lawsuit acknowledge there was malfeasance by the Coward County Sheriff, School board, and FBI? Even if they don't win.
It's also telling, not one of these lawsuits is aimed at the NRA? how weird is that?
It's also telling, not one of these lawsuits is aimed at the NRA? how weird is that?
The Gov't will buy them out before it ever gets to a courtroom if there is any legitimacy to the lawsuit. See 9-11... The Federal Gov't and airlines were complicit, maybe not 100% culpable, but even 50% would be enough to reap billions... They made it all go away! Just like that (snap fingers)