The Term “Machine Gun” Could Soon Include Semi-Automatic Rifles In Maine

[livingston]

The Term “Machine Gun” Could Soon Include Semi-Automatic Rifles In Maine
Maine proposal to redefine “machine gun” could lead to backdoor gun confiscation
AUGUSTA – A bill proposed by Rep. Victoria Doudera (D – Camden) would redefine what a “machine gun” is under state law. The Maine Legislature has attempted, without success, to pass more than a dozen laws that would impact Maine gun owners since the new Democrat majority was ushered in alongside Governor Janet Mills.
Maine Revised Statutes Title 17-A: Part 2, Chapter 43
§1053. Confiscation and seizure of machine gun
“Any machine gun possessed in violation of section 1051 is declared to be contraband and is subject to forfeiture to the State. Any law enforcement officer shall have the power to seize the same with due process.”
The definition of a “machine gun” subject to confiscation and seizure under state law is as follows:
Maine Revised Statutes Title 17-A: Part 2, Chapter 43
§1051. Possession of machine gun
“A weapon of any description, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, which is capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger or firing mechanism.”
By changing the definition of a “machine gun” to encompass more of the firearms owned by Mainers, Rep. Doudera’s proposal could also make those newly defined “machine guns” subject to confiscation and seizure, turning owners of those firearms into criminals under the new law.

Maine proposal to redefine “machine gun” could lead to backdoor gun confiscation

The proposal will be considered by the Legislative Council on October 23.

maineexaminer.com

 

[livingston]

From the comments section ...

Dean Barron
This is just a joke. Sorry folks...nothing to see here. It'll never pass!!
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John Bernard
You have far too much faith in these idiots.
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Paul DeCausemacker
As a Vermonter who thought the same of some of the stupid regulations we now need to live under I would caution against being too certain of anything.
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[ArmedCorgi]

Do states even have the authority to define what is and isn't a machine gun? I thought that was the exclusive domain of the feds.

 

[SomeSoldier]

So basically words no longer have a standard meaning and can be changed on a whim to mean whatever it takes to seize power from the people.

 

[Saltwater60]

I can’t imagine this going over too well in Maine.

 

[Blimey]

"“A weapon of any description, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, which is capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger or firing mechanism.” "

How does that include a semi auto rifle?

 

[Grimscale]

How does that include a semi auto rifle?

By being just vague enough that they will use it as such until someone is rich enough, and lucky enough, to have it thrown out in Court.

aka: New York

 

[spat]

So basically words no longer have a standard meaning and can be changed on a whim to mean whatever it takes to seize power from the people.

I think we should change the definition of transgender to include AR15s then.

Then we can demand all these laws that discriminate against our transgender rifles be stricken from the books.

 

[Bob]

"“A weapon of any description, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, which is capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger or firing mechanism.” "

How does that include a semi auto rifle?

That is the current wording of the law. The article does not state what the new proposed definition would be, nor can I find a bill with the number given.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

So basically words no longer have a standard meaning and can be changed on a whim to mean whatever it takes to seize power from the people.

You're just noticing this?

 

[SomeSoldier]

You're just noticing this?

No just stating it again incase someone missed it.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Title II weapons - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe we should elect politicians that can comprehend English. They keep lowering the bar on any pseudo social issue they want to inflate.

 

[Bob]

And on further digging, the proposal was put forth and then shot down yesterday.

 

[Robin]

Next they will demand all new guns must be based on female genitalia as opposed to current configurations. That would really suck.
Robin

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Next they will demand all new guns must be based on female genitalia as opposed to current configurations. That would really suck.
Robin

Muzzle loaders.

 

[GOPerfect]

This will never pass, though, I really hope it had a chance and became law!

 

[Acer-m14]

"“A weapon of any description, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, which is capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger or firing mechanism.” "

from that wording it banned all guns including BP pistols .. .. BP Rifles and Single Shots got a pass ..

 

[ArmedCorgi]

"...which is capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger or firing mechanism.” "
"by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger..." I would take that to mean one trigger pull, which would mean automatic and not semi-auto.

 

[Acer-m14]

capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger or firing mechanism.” "

6 shot revolver .. how fast can you pull the trigger to trip the rapid succession
the numbers of shots not defined .. just rapid ..
shit could even include a derringer pew pew .. to fast .. busted .
nothing on self loading .. ( semi autos ) .. just one pull and be rapid .. there gone too ..

 

[TMC]

"...which is capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger or firing mechanism.” "
"by one manual or mechanical action on the trigger..." I would take that to mean one trigger pull, which would mean automatic and not semi-auto.

Same to me ,the word " manual " seems to include sqeezing the trigger rapidly that was part of the justification for the bumpstock ban it allowed the rapid trigger pull mimicking an automatic weapon.

 

[Acer-m14]

one manual or mechanical action on the trigger ... one action .. pull and release .. just dont do it really fast .. how i read it ..

 

[TMC]

"Slow and easy" only applies in sex and shaving ( not necessarily independent of each other ) and in sniping, everything else is rock n roll

 

[Grimscale]

one manual or mechanical action on the trigger ... one action .. pull and release .. just dont do it really fast .. how i read it ..

You have to include the whole sentence:
capable of discharging a number of projectiles in rapid succession by one manual or mechanical action

That says to me multiple rounds with a single pull. That is the definition of machine gun.
Fast fingers, bumpstocks, belt loops, those all have one round per trigger pull. So they are not included.

 

[Bigfoot]

I can point at a car and call it a tree all day long... That will not change the fact that I am pointing at a car.

Words have meaning... Like this for an example,,, DEMOCRATS SUCK!

 

[BDinPutnam]

"Slow and easy" only applies in sex and shaving ( not necessarily independent of each other ) and in sniping, everything else is rock n roll

Slow is smooth.
Smooth is fast.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Slow is smooth.
Smooth is fast.

Rubbins' racin'.

 

[spat]

I can point at a car and call it a tree all day long... That will not change the fact that I am pointing at a car.

Words have meaning... Like this for an example,,, DEMOCRATS SUCK!

Well, Democrats can point at a man in a dress and call him a woman, so it's not surprising they can't stick with any other definition.