What to do if in an active shooter situation

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I was just randomly looking up tactics and ideas of how to act in an active shooter scenario

Everyone has heard of run, hide fight

But here are some videos showing techniques to jam a gun I had never thought of.

Just thought someone might take an interest. What do you guys think? Good idea or horrible?




What other tactics have you guys seen or thought of?

 

[Podmonkey]

Horrible idea. You would be so spazzed out in an "active shooter" (what a bs pc appelation that is) situation youre not gonna be able to reliably pull any of that off. Take cover, bug out. If you can't get away but are armed and have the shot, take it. If you are point blank close, kick, punch, bite, claw, gouge and flail. Technique is gonna go right out the window.

 

[MilesTeg]

They taught these techniques in Marine boot camp. They are literally the last resort option. They were taught in conjunction with trench warfare and bayonet training.

 

[GOPerfect]

Active shooter situation, if you have a good shot, take it; if not hide and save yourself

 

[MilesTeg]

We got the training under the new martial arts thing. I think it was for the basic brown belt.

 

[GOPerfect]

I have been taught how to disarm a shooter, nothing like this though. My opinion, do not try these tactics.

 

[Podmonkey]

I have been taught how to disarm a shooter, nothing like this though. My opinion, do not try these tactics.

Not to mention disarm tactics are far more relevant to LE than the private citizen.

 

[GOPerfect]

Not to mention disarm tactics are far more relevant to LE than the private citizen.

It is not as easy to do as seen in many videos.

 

[MilesTeg]

I have been taught how to disarm a shooter, nothing like this though. My opinion, do not try these tactics.

Agreed we were taught those too.

 

[Podmonkey]

It is not as easy to do as seen in many videos.

Nothing is ever as easy as it seems.

 

[Podmonkey]

Agreed we were taught those too.

You know that thing they teach you for detaining suspected insurgents? Where you spread their legs out wide and place one of your feet in between so you can quickly knock em off balance if they try to pull something?
Well this one sergeant was using one of his soldiers to demonstrate this, Kerr was his name, nobody liked Kerr, and when he spread Kerr's legs out he kicked him right in the balls!
It was hilarious! Maybe not for Kerr though.

 

[MilesTeg]

A lot of damage can be done to someone welding a pistol grip rifle. Even with this fact I would never try to be that close to an attacker. The odds of being fatally wounded is almost guaranteed.

 

[MilesTeg]

You know that thing they teach you for detaining suspected insurgents? Where you spread their legs out wide and place one of your feet in between so you can quickly knock em off balance if they try to pull something?
Well this one sergeant was using one of his soldiers to demonstrate this, Kerr was his name, nobody liked Kerr, and when he spread Kerr's legs out he kicked him right in the balls!
It was hilarious! Maybe not for Kerr though.

Funny you say that I have a similar story but not nearly as funny. We were a small active reserve squadron with no MP's to secure our barracks. So Evey marine had to do a guard tour. Well my class was lucky enough to have a NYC police instructor (reservist). So it comes time for handcuff training and my partner was having a hard time handcuffing me when I was resisting. So the instructor stepped in to show how it was done. After 3 attempts he told the class I was one of the assholes that requires tazing.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Run!

If possible. Run.

That has saved my life once already. No extra holes that day.

 

[Podmonkey]

Funny you say that I have a similar story but not nearly as funny. We were a small active reserve squadron with no MP's to secure our barracks. So Evey marine had to do a guard tour. Well my class was lucky enough to have a NYC police instructor (reservist). So it comes time for handcuff training and my partner was having a hard time handcuffing me when I was resisting. So the instructor stepped in to show how it was done. After 3 attempts he told the class I was one of the assholes that requires tazing.

 

[Jmac00]

Run!

If possible. Run.

That has saved my life once already. No extra holes that day.

my thoughts exactly. I hear shots, Me and anyone with me are going to the other way as fast as possible. I'll cover the retreat, but Im hauling ass

call me a coward, fine. But unless the threat is dangerously close, Im out of there

 

[spat]

A lot of damage can be done to someone welding a pistol grip rifle. Even with this fact I would never try to be that close to an attacker. The odds of being fatally wounded is almost guaranteed.

Better to be that close than 10 feet away from an attacker with a rifle.

 

[Acer-m14]

flipping it around and you have a semi auto pistol and your fist to cuff with bad guy and manage to get it out .. better check what happens when you stick the muzzle into the bad guys gut .... slide goes back and your out of battery .. click ..

 

[Edwardteach72]

Today on good ways to get yourself shot.

First priority get safe, if that's not an option get dirty. (Not talking about any stand your ground laws either, or legality of stopping someone with a defensive firearm) and if you can't get someplace safe and have a force multiplie, use it if you can. Don't try any YouTube john wick voodoo..... kick em in the nuts

 

[Edwardteach72]

flipping it around and you have a semi auto pistol and your fist to cuff with bad guy and manage to get it out .. better check what happens when you stick the muzzle into the bad guys gut .... slide goes back and your out of battery .. click ..

One reason I'm all for weapon mounted lights and plan to go to a surefire x300 once I'm ready to put a compensator on my carry gun.

Weapon light can be used as a stand off device helping mitigate your gun going out of battery during close retention shooting.

 

[GOYABEAN]

dial 911 and kiss your ass

 

[Criticalt]

Last resort if retreat is not possible, grabbing the gun is exactly what im doing. Good, bad or ugly.....you gotta try something.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Obviously these are contact-distance tactics. If at arms length from a shooter (or less), or in a scuffle over a weapon, you bet I'm grabbing it. If I can induce a weapons jam, then bludgeon said attacker with his own weapon (or clear the jam and use it), my chances of survival just went up.

Also, illustrations like this highlight the need for training in less than ideal circumstances, clearing jams, FTE, etc.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Grabbing the gun? WTF!

Most people can’t hit shit. You’re better off getting a couple feet away and the motherfucker will probably miss you.

Grabbing the gun a point blank range is probably going to get your shot. He probably can’t hear anything past point blank.

Call me after you’re in the situation. Let me know how it turns out.

I was in the situation. Grabbing a 12 gauge sawn off shotgun, inside a car was not an option (close enough?) . It would’ve been stupid.

 

[meketrefe]

what if he is Chuck Nurris son?

 

[Cooolone]

Love these wanna be "I got a technique" for every situation "take my Dough($) jo's" that try and teach this type of bullshit!

First off... I'd challenge any of those fuckers if they'd like to try the technique with me and "Live" rounds chambered! Guarantee not one will accept, so what's the point?

You can't prove it works with an unloaded firearm! Could try with a paintball gun, but it's not the same when you know your life isn't at risk!

 

[GOPerfect]

Love these wanna be "I got a technique" for every situation "take my Dough($) jo's" that try and teach this type of bullshit!

First off... I'd challenge any of those fuckers if they'd like to try the technique with me and "Live" rounds chambered! Guarantee not one will accept, so what's the point?

You can't prove it works with an unloaded firearm! Could try with a paintball gun, but it's not the same when you know your life isn't at risk!

I have trained under some pretty hectic guidelines, it is very difficult to get positive results. I like to think that many do not state their intentions to brag or make themselves bigger than they are. Many just have no clue what a true situation would be like.

Take a fireman for example, I have never been in their shoes, no matter how hard I try, no matter how many videos I have watched them doing their jobs; I could not imagine what they go through while fighting a fire. Nor would I want to.

 

[meketrefe]

Dear sturdents, taker his firearms and then proceed as follows...

 

[GOPerfect]

Dear sturdents, taker his firearms and then proceed as follows...

Cool, those are my people! Awesome!

Bjorn is my 34th Great Uncle, kick ass!