Need a Lawyer for a Firearm related case near Queensbury, NY.

[Shoots100]

I have a friend who needs a Lawyer for a firearm related incident.
He's a first responder that was denied medical treatment.
He was on his way to work and was carrying his sidearm, when he needed medical services.
He contacted the NRA, but the NRA has lawyers in Manhattan and they said they'll back any lawyer who takes the case 100%, but the Lawyers in his town won't take the case, as their golf buddies with the offender.
He found this out when he went to see if one of them would take the case for him.
Any help would be appreciated.
Steve

 

[Doc8404]

What is this about?
He was denied medical treatment?
That's an EMTALA issue unless you have more details.

 

[Shoots100]

What is this about?

Read Above Post ?

 

[Doc8404]

I did.
Good luck.

 

[Different Drummer]

OK lets make sure everyone gets this right. Makes no difference if he is a first responder or works for a local burger joint.
Are you saying that when he was on his way to work, something happened like an auto accident with personal injury or perhaps a diabetic episode and a person who gets paid as a first responder or equivalent refused to attend to his needs because they saw he was carrying a firearm?
IMO that is what your OP seems to be saying.
Please just clarify.

 

[Doc8404]

Which would mean it doesn't have shit to do with 2A or "firearm related."

 

[carpediem]

I think the EMT was doing something, had cause to go to the hospital ER, forgot to remove his firearm, got turned away. Why not go out, take off the gun and go back? Did he die or become paralyzed or something? Too few details.

 

[Shoots100]

Which would mean it doesn't have shit to do with 2A or "firearm related."

I guess "a first responder that was denied medical treatment because he was carrying his sidearm while going for medical treatment" has nothing to do with being firearm related ?
If you have nothing to contribute, please don't respond.
I'm looking to help a friend in need.

 

[Shoots100]

I need a Lawyer for him to contact, I guess I picked the wrong place to ask for help !

 

[carpediem]

I guess "a first responder that was denied medical treatment because he was carrying his sidearm while going for medical treatment" has nothing to do with being firearm related ?
If you have nothing to contribute, please don't respond.
I'm looking to help a friend in need.

Right, but in order to help your friend, people need details. Maybe someone here is an attorney, or someone knows one, and if they relay the story as you have posted it, they are going to say that it is not enough info. Most hospitals will turn you away as they have a "No Weapons" policy. It doesn't matter if you are a first responder or a burger flipper as it were, unless you are LEO, no firearms. They will prevail every time since it is their property and their rules.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I think to better understand we need more details...

Hypothetical example, what if he had to be sedated for medical attention, who would be in charge of safe custody of his firearm on his person?

Etc... There is a lot about this story that I'm not quite following.

Can you please explain step by step what happened? I think many others are willing to help but also confused

 

[Doc8404]

Again, as someone more familiar with healthcare and hospitals than most on this site, I am asking for details. Your limited cloaked bullshit you provided leads towards an EMTALA violation which can get hospitals and EMS in some shit.

Soooooo go visit another site and provide limited details.

 

[Doc8404]

I wish your friend luck. Hope he has more articulate friends attempting to assist him.

 

[Acer-m14]

I'm thinking this as . first responder or not ,.. i show up at a ER for anything health related .. maybe i just got hit in the mouth with a pipe... with a firearm and they refuse me because of it .. ... now what ????

or i got stung by bees and i'm algeric to them .. , ect .. medicine reaction ..

 

[carpediem]

I'm thinking this as . first responder or not ,.. i show up at a ER for anything health related .. maybe i just got hit in the mouth with a pipe... with a firearm and they refuse me because of it .. ... now what ????

You lose the firearm and come back.

 

[Acer-m14]

@carpediem re read .. edited , .. allergic reaction i don't have time to go back to car and come back ..

 

[Acer-m14]

we need to know what his med emergency was to give a answer ..

 

[carpediem]

@carpediem re read .. edited , .. allergic reaction i don't have time to go back to car and come back ..

They would probably stabilize you right there and have the cops come take your gun. Then who knows. I see what you are saying, but many immediate life threatening situations would probably include you arriving via ambulance and not walking in. If I drove myself, and was carrying, I would leave it in the car and call my wife to avoid problems. There is some grey area in a strict "No Weapons" policy when, if the person is denied immediate care, they die, it would seem. Who knows, the OP didn't lay out the scenario in a way that could be looked at and analyzed.

 

[WileyX585]

Yes, we need more details to better understand what he needs the lawyer for. That makes a difference.

What was his medical emergency?(makes a difference when dealing with firearms and patient care)
What was his mechanism of injury? (Goes along with med emer. But if it was auto accident....)
Who denied him care? EMS or hospital (BIG difference
How did they find he was concealed carrying?
What happened after he was denied care?

I am a first responder, and I deal with people carrying firearms at least every other shift. Not a big deal but it helps to know the whole story to better help your friend.

 

[spat]

We are all trying to understand the circumstances to offer help, but that isn't what the OP asked for.

He doesn't want our advice, he wants a lawyers advice. He just wants us to point him in the direction of a decent lawyer who won't abandon hs friend the minute he finds out he is a gun owner.

We all tell people "If you want legal advice, ask a lawyer, 'cause we're all just keyboard commandos when it comes to the legal system". This guy is seeking to do just that.

If you guys know the name of a 2A friendly lawyer in his neck of the woods, spit it out. You don't need to know anything more about the circumstances of the case than that this guy thinks that matters.

 

[Doc8404]

Then ask for a 2A attorney reference. Don't give some half baked story about medical treatment.

That's like saying "anyone have a good DWI attorney? I was walking through hanaford and got picked up for shoplifting."

 

[spat]

Then ask for a 2A attorney reference. Don't give some half baked story about medical treatment.

That's like saying "anyone have a good DWI attorney? I was walking through hanaford and got picked up for shoplifting."

That is literally what he did.

Either you know a name, or you can't offer the advice he was looking for.

He would have been better off not even telling us any details, he would have gotten his answer.

 

[spat]

Yes, we need more details to better understand what he needs the lawyer for. That makes a difference.

No, it doesn't make a difference.

Unless you know so many good 2A friendly attorneys in his area that you need to narrow the list down, you don't need to know anything more than that.

It sounds to me like he may not even need a 2A attorney specifically, just a good attorney that isn't anti-gun.

How many of them do you know down there ?

If the answer is less than a dozen, then just list them and he can sort out which one is best.....

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'm confused... but that isn't too unusual. Besides that, nothing to add.

 

[WileyX585]

No, it doesn't make a difference.

Unless you know so many good 2A friendly attorneys in his area that you need to narrow the list down, you don't need to know anything more than that.

It sounds to me like he may not even need a 2A attorney specifically, just a good attorney that isn't anti-gun.

How many of them do you know down there ?

If the answer is less than a dozen, then just list them and he can sort out which one is best.....

It absolutely makes a difference. Lots of lawyers won't take on a hospital. But if it's a medic that refused care, different. The OP said that the lawyer was good buddies with the "offender" and I doubt he's playing 18 holes with a hospital.

I'm not trying to be an ass, what happened to his friend is none of my business but knowing who he is going against makes an absolute difference. Not all lawyers practice each part of the law.

I'm just trying to help. If the OP wanted specifically a 2A friendly lawyer, then ask that specifically. Or Google it.

OP, I wish your friend luck, tough situation he's in.

 

[Doc8404]

That is literally what he did.

Either you know a name, or you can't offer the advice he was looking for.

He would have been better off not even telling us any details, he would have gotten his answer.

I agree. We have multiple threads asking "anyone know a good 2A attorney?" And Jose flourish

 

[Doc8404]

I'm confused... but that isn't too unusual. Besides that, nothing to add.

As per Spat
"Either you know a name, or you can't offer the advice he was looking for."

 

[spat]

It absolutely makes a difference. Lots of lawyers won't take on a hospital. But if it's a medic that refused care, different. The OP said that the lawyer was good buddies with the "offender" and I doubt he's playing 18 holes with a hospital.

I'm not trying to be an ass, what happened to his friend is none of my business but knowing who he is going against makes an absolute difference. Not all lawyers practice each part of the law.

I'm just trying to help. If the OP wanted specifically a 2A friendly lawyer, then ask that specifically. Or Google it.

OP, I wish your friend luck, tough situation he's in.

Unless you know dozens of good lawyers in his area and need to narrow them down, it doesn't.

You could have easily said "I know a good divorce lawyer who's dabbled in firearms law, but that's it...." and provided a name and let the OP decide if it works for him or not.

If you know a lawyer who won't touch hospitals, but shoots trap with you on Fridays, give him a name and let him know the limitations, let him decide.

He doesn't need a perfect fit for his case, he needs the best fit in his area he can find. Give him the best ones you know.

I swear, sometimes on these forums someone could say "I hear glass breaking downstairs, can I grab a gun and investigate? " and it will start a caliber war and people won't answer till the OP answers questions about what guns he has available, how he should have picked different guns to have, and whether it sounded like the glass was broken wiht a bat or a frying pan.....

 

[WileyX585]

Unless you know dozens of good lawyers in his area and need to narrow them down, it doesn't.

You could have easily said "I know a good divorce lawyer who's dabbled in firearms law, but that's it...." and provided a name and let the OP decide if it works for him or not.

He doesn't need a perfect fit for his case, he needs the best fit in his area he can find. Give him the best ones you know.

I swear, sometimes on these forums someone could say "I hear glass breaking downstairs, can I grab a gun and investigate? " and it will start a caliber war and people won't answer till the OP answers questions about what gunshe he has available, how he should have picked different guns to have, and whether it sounded like the glass was broken wiht a bat or a frying pan.....

I'll settle this now. Caliber war? No war, 45 wins. And double if it's a Glock.

All kidding aside, I understand where your coming from. My father is a lawyer in N.Y. and has a large network or friend that are as well so I was trying to narrow it down to help.

OP I'm gonna send you a PM....

 

[spat]

I'll settle this now. Caliber war? No war, 45 wins. And double if it's a Glock.

All kidding aside, I understand where your coming from. My father is a lawyer in N.Y. and has a large network or friend that are as well so I was trying to narrow it down to help.

OP I'm gonna send you a PM....

Glad I qualified my posts with "unless you know dozens of lawyers in his area" It sounds like you may be the first one here that can actually help him.

But what if it did sound like a frying pan was used to break the glass, still a .45 ?

I'm just afraid he may have been chased off completely by our initial response.