I Was Auctioning A Rifle At GunBroker...(read first post then vote)

[Glenn B]

...and after the auction closed, I set an email to the high bidder telling him how to proceed. He replies with an email and the following is an exact quote of the body of his email, minus only his name:

this is my first purchase here,
How do i know this is all legit?

If send a check to your home,
Then send the gun to my home.

As would any person legitimately selling a firearm, my terms included that the gun needs to be shipped to a dealer with a FFL, that the buyer must be legally eligible to receive and posses it at his place of residence and some other things. My auction terms also included that he pay me within 5 business days of end of auction ( he has until Friday), that a U.S. Postal money order is the only form of payment I will accept, and that he supply me with a copy of currently valid government issued ID. Now he wants me to accept a check and then have me send the firearm to his home and has the nerve to ask me how he knows it is all legitimate! No way I am sending him anything, no even a rubber band gun, unless he satisfies the legal end and my terms.

All the best,
Glenn B

 

[NirvanaFan]

I'd guess he's just a fairly new gun owner that just doesn't know any better. Probably from a free state I'm guessing?

 

[Glenn B]

I guess I can name the state - it is CT.

 

[bushkill]

Sounds like a Craiglist'r who accidentally ended up on GunBroker....

 

[Marine Cpl]

Send him back an email explaining the legalities of having to go to an FFL and remind him of his obligation to pay.

If he doesn't respond or pay, I would just report it to gunbroker and relist it. It isn't worth your time and effort to fight it.

 

[Saltwater60]

Sounds fishy to me. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I'd say read the auction rules that I posted and proceed as the contract you agreed to by bidding or you get nothing. Then unfortunately report them since I'm guessing you had to pay something for the auction. Good luck. I suppose he could be harmless, but I would read the rules before bidding since it is a gun.

 

[Glenn B]

I already told him in my auction terms what needs to be done and replied in an email to his explaining that he should familiarize himself with the buyers tutorial on GunBroker, the legal aspects in his state and about the FFL, and so on. I will relist if he does not come through but have to say that it almost is not worth the effort to get GunBroker to refund the listing and final value fees. Note, I only said almost but if he does not do the right thing I will report him as a non-paying bidder (or whatever else is appropriate) and then request the refund even though it is a pain in the butt. Hopefully he is just new to this and maybe did not pay enough attention to what needed his full attention and he will carry through properly and legally. As I said though, no way I am shipping to him unless all his ducks are in a row.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I would make him aware of your terms, the law and gunbroker's rules. Also notify gunbroker of the issue and cc or bcc them on all correspondence.

 

[Criticalt]

All of the above, hes a very busy little beaver.

Seriously, I think hes just an ignorant first time user.

 

[Frankly]

Probably a 13-year old or a "journalist"

 

[soylentBlue]

I'm guessing he's your typical eBay scammer reaching out into new territory.

 

[Celt]

While I would like to give him the benefit of Doubt and say that he is probably just a new gun owner that lives in a free state, I can't help but think that it's an undercover trying to nail someone.

 

[Mk44]

Being that the buyer is from CT, he's not in a free state.
Either he's a newbie or he's a scammer.

Sounds like he's a real winner.
if it was me- I would open a case with Gunbroker. Send Gunbroker a copy of the buyer's email and have them contact the buyer so they can explain the contract/legal agreement to buyer when he won the bid. If the buyer does not live up to his end of the deal, Gunbroker will make a note of the buyer's failure to complete the transaction & refund your seller's fees. Good luck.

 

[Podmonkey]

Some of you folks are paranoid. This is a person that dosen't know any better and believes want they see on the news. I voted idiot. Tell him shipped to an FFL or no deal, then report him to gunbroker for further action. They will typically relist the auctionnfor free.

 

[Catskillkid]

Guy's a narc. Then again I'm the paranoid type.

 

[Harry Hood]

He is just checking out the internet loophole. You know where you order a gun online without a background check and it comes to your house, what you guys haven't been to that site yet?

 

[eagleridge357]

In my GB ads, I require any bidders with less than 5 feedback ratings to make a $50 deposit by paypal, which deposit will be deducted from winning bid amount, or refunded if bidder does not win. $50 is forfeited if bidder does not complete the sale. When you get a questionable bidder, just block their bids. They are not worth the hassles. The gun will sell without their participation. Many sellers will not deal with potential troublemakers. There are anti-gunners out there who pose as legit bidders, then attempt to hassle and aggravate sellers. I know this for a fact. Don't play the game. Avoid these jerks.

 

[Deplorable Me]

There's a lot of first time gun buyers out there who actually believe the media hype about purchasing firearms. There are one gun owners out there in NY who do not believe you have to get a background check relative to selling their one gun to a friend. Be easy on the virgins guys. When they figure out how screwy the laws are they'll become bitter just like us.

 

[ProgSpear]

Syrian immigrant just trying to fulfill his glorious destiny.

 

[Glenn B]

He has not gotten back to me but I will wait until Saturday until I contact GunBroker about this and request a refund of the final value fee and listing fees. Only reason I am waiting is because the high bidder has until tomorrow to get the payment, FFL and copy of his ID to me.

I can say that the guy is not a kid, or at least there is an adult man with the same name and in the same town as the high bidder listed for himself and his residence in the GunBroker account he is using. Of course, I suppose some kid could have used his father's ID to sign up on GunBroker and then hope I would send him a gun at his house so he could do whatever with it. Anyway, I am still hopeful this is all a misunderstanding on the bidder's part and he will get it straight and pay me to complete the sale. If not, then relisted it will be.

 

[Doc8404]

Just send him the gun.
See if your badge helps you when they come knocking on your door.

I am just kidding. Relax.

I am one of the paranoid ones.
Once Saturday passes move on.

 

[Glenn B]

It seems to be coming along and he seems to be a first time bidder. He has apparently started making arrangements with a gun store to send me their FFL.

 

[Phauxtoe]

It's been awhile since I signed up for GB, but aren't the rules splashed everywhere, including ever auction?

Tell them the rules and see if they want to follow thru, if they don't report them to GB

 

[Blimey]

2).

Could be 1) but 2) does not exclude 1).

 

[BerettaGuy]

An anti-gun nut trying get someone to illegally ship a gun to him to then publicize it.
Also Known As:
Troll
Paid Poster
Liberal
Progressive
Commie
Highly Educated but dumb as a box of rocks
DemocRAT

Ask him if he works for the DNC or Brady Bunch.

 

[dsdmmat]

...and after the auction closed, I set an email to the high bidder telling him how to proceed. He replies with an email and the following is an exact quote of the body of his email, minus only his name:



As would any person legitimately selling a firearm, my terms included that the gun needs to be shipped to a dealer with a FFL, that the buyer must be legally eligible to receive and posses it at his place of residence and some other things. My auction terms also included that he pay me within 5 business days of end of auction ( he has until Friday), that a U.S. Postal money order is the only form of payment I will accept, and that he supply me with a copy of currently valid government issued ID. Now he wants me to accept a check and then have me send the firearm to his home and has the nerve to ask me how he knows it is all legitimate! No way I am sending him anything, no even a rubber band gun, unless he satisfies the legal end and my terms.

All the best,
Glenn B

Leave negative feedback if you don't receive payment in 7 days.

 

[Podmonkey]

It seems to be coming along and he seems to be a first time bidder. He has apparently started making arrangements with a gun store to send me their FFL.

I thought as much. Glad things are rolling along. Some of y'all are way to paranoid about this. I'm sure anti gunner trolls making bids with an agenda exist but so what? Just follow the laws like we always have anyway and make use of the ample seller protections the auction site offers.

 

[Glenn B]

I have edited the poll to allow users to change their votes if they want because I wanted to change my vote. I initially selected number 1. I changed that vote to Number 2, just a moment or so ago.

The reasoning behind me changing my vote was that the guy not only had no clue as to the requirements for a high bidder on GunBroker, nor about how the deal would go legally (remember he wanted me to ship directly to his house), then asked for more time and I granted him 5 more calendar days for payment to arrive (after already waiting the 5 business days I had required in auction terms), then today sent me an email saying this:

Hello Bart,

Unfortunately I have to rescind my offer, I apologize for any inconvenience this may have cost you.

axxxxx

As far as I am concerned, this guy is a candidate for one of my arsehats of the year awards.

I have filed a non-paying bidder refund request with GunBroker (for the listing and final value fees) and have left the bidder an F rating for feedback because his so called apology does nothing to recoup money I have paid for the fees, nor time wasted on him.

Not only was he an arsehats in that he either did not know what to do to buy the gun or placed a bid which he never intended to follow through and thus was a non-paying bidder but he called me Bart throughout the transaction. Why he took the liberty to act as if he was on familiar terms with me and then called my by a nickname is beyond my imagination.

All the best,
Glenn B

 

[Podmonkey]

What a jerk off! Its only stated multiple times to not bid unless you are willing and able to pay the winning bid! Oh well, they will relist it for free. What are you selling again? Link?

 

[Doc8404]

That sucks Bart