What are my options as a Long Islander in the current Carona Crisis.

[2A All Day]

Hey guys new to the forum. I tried using the search feature here but couldn’t exactly find my scenario. So I’m from Long Island and with the current crisis, the shops here are only selling to LE at the moment. I called some upstate shops that have some good inventory still in stock. Looking at some fully assembled AR platform rifles. They said I could purchase however if I travel through NYC to go home I wouldn’t be able to do that. I could technically go through Connecticut and take the ferry back home but I am unsure of their laws as well. Has anyone ever ran into this before? What are my options besides building one at home. (Not up to that task yet) Sorry for the long winded post just trying to give as much info as possible. Thank you!!

 

[Jem45472]

Somebody from closer to the city should answer soon. Maybe ok to split upper and lower in half? @Airborneguy

 

[cgrutt]

Assuming rifle is NYS compliant and you are not a NYC resident, pretty sure you can travel through NYC with it secured unloaded in a locked case with ammo stored separately in a locked case just like any other long gun or shot gun.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Whoever told you that you cannot transport through the city is incorrect.

 

[Bananabandit]

Just drive through the water. Whats the worst that can happen?

 

[technicalgadget]

18 U.S. Code § 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

 

[2A All Day]

Somebody from closer to the city should answer soon. Maybe ok to split upper and lower in half? @Airborneguy

this may be a good idea if it’s allowed. You mean like buy the assembled rifle and disassemble it for transport?

 

[nortatoga]

You could ship it in two different packages, If that would make you feel better. (UPS/FedEx not USPS)

 

[2A All Day]

18 U.S. Code § 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

This is very helpful. However is this a US federal code and would it supersede NY state law? If it’s possible to just pass through the Bronx and Queens on my way home it technically wouldn’t be interstate travel.

 

[2A All Day]

You could ship it in two different packages, If that would make you feel better. (UPS/FedEx not USPS)

I thought about shipping but shops here aren’t doing transfers unless you’re LE. At the moment.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Here you go. Directly from the NYC Admin Code regarding firearms. Right from the horses mouth. No need to listen to anyone else.

https://www.nysrpa.org/files/nyc-admincode.pdf

i. (1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon according to the laws of his or her place of residence.

 

[2A All Day]

Here you go. Directly from the NYC Admin Code regarding firearms. Right from the horses mouth. No need to listen to anyone else.

https://www.nysrpa.org/files/nyc-admincode.pdf

i. (1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon according to the laws of his or her place of residence.

Very awesome! This sounds like exactly what I was asking. Thank you sir.

 

[Cooolone]

Whoever told you that you cannot transport through the city is incorrect.

And if it was the gun shop, I would move on, find another! Just sayin... There are plenty upstate

This is very helpful. However is this a US federal code and would it supersede NY state law? If it’s possible to just pass through the Bronx and Queens on my way home it technically wouldn’t be interstate travel.

I have to ask... Not that it's relevant to the purpose of purchasing, but wanting a firearm.

Why are you now interested?

Only because if you are unaware whether or not, of the hierarchy of Federal, State and local laws, included not only the ownership and or use of firearms, especially whether it be for Sport or Defense... You need to get some education going on

Just my $.02

Suggested reading is Article 400 and 35 of NY State Penal Code. Start there... Then expand to any County and Federal laws. If you don't shoot, get some training, as this will take the mystery out of it and make it fun rather than feeling like you don't know what's going on. You'll appreciate it.

Regards

 

[Scoot McGoot]

I'd take the Port Jeff ferry just to avoid the city regardless.

 

[BDinPutnam]

And if it was the gun shop, I would move on, find another! Just sayin... There are plenty upstate



I have to ask... Not that it's relevant to the purpose of purchasing, but wanting a firearm.

Why are you now interested?

Only because if you are unaware whether or not, of the hierarchy of Federal, State and local laws, included not only the ownership and or use of firearms, especially whether it be for Sport or Defense... You need to get some education going on

Just my $.02

Suggested reading is Article 400 and 35 of NY State Penal Code. Start there... Then expand to any County and Federal laws. If you don't shoot, get some training, as this will take the mystery out of it and make it fun rather than feeling like you don't know what's going on. You'll appreciate it.

Regards

NYC is MORE restrictive than Federal... and is answered in @Marine Cpl's post above...

 

[Deplorable Me]

Just drive through the water. Whats the worst that can happen?

You said that the last tragic boating account.

 

[Airborneguy]

Just lock it up in a case in the trunk separate from the ammo. You’ll be fine.

 

[2A All Day]

And if it was the gun shop, I would move on, find another! Just sayin... There are plenty upstate



I have to ask... Not that it's relevant to the purpose of purchasing, but wanting a firearm.

Why are you now interested?

Only because if you are unaware whether or not, of the hierarchy of Federal, State and local laws, included not only the ownership and or use of firearms, especially whether it be for Sport or Defense... You need to get some education going on

Just my $.02

Suggested reading is Article 400 and 35 of NY State Penal Code. Start there... Then expand to any County and Federal laws. If you don't shoot, get some training, as this will take the mystery out of it and make it fun rather than feeling like you don't know what's going on. You'll appreciate it.

Regards

Knew this type of response was coming. There’s always that one guy. The whole point of joining forums like these are to expand knowledge minus the trial and error. Which with firearms is quite serious. What’s the point of joining a forum to ask questions if it only results in getting flack from guys who know more than others. And my reply to that post was in question to whether in NY, will federal law be instantly accepted or will I be arrested and the fact which I obeyed federal law over state law be hashed out in court while I wait for that result in jail. Because I’d rather do it correctly the first time. The whole point of my being here is to “educate myself” as you put it. Or at least I thought that’s what I was doing. I had no issues with the use or ownership of my firearms. Only transport of a style of firearm I am new to, through an area that has its own set of rules, based on info from a firearms dealer who I would assume knows more than I do. I will read though the articles you suggested. Thank you .

Regards.

 

[C3D]

The definition of an "assault weapon" is no longer necessarily more restrictive in New York City than outside of it. May very well be your SAFE-compliant rifle is NYC legal.

Just the same, the advice above about transporting through in a case is correct; perfectly ok.

The posts above as to FOPA are incorrect. FOPA does not apply to travel within a single state.

 

[technicalgadget]

Did I miss something? I thought he said coming through CT.

 

[Airborneguy]

The definition of an "assault weapon" is no longer necessarily more restrictive in New York City than outside of it. May very well be your SAFE-compliant rifle is NYC legal.

Just the same, the advice above about transporting through in a case is correct; perfectly ok.

The posts above as to FOPA are incorrect. FOPA does not apply to travel within a single state.

AR-15 and AK pattern rifles are completely banned in NYC regardless of features.

 

[2A All Day]

NYC is MORE restrictive than Federal... and is answered in @Marine Cpl's post above...

Yes this is what I was getting at. NYC is its own animal. And I’d rather not learn the hard way. I am trying to gather as much correct information as possible. And act responsibly. Thanks for your support.

 

[C3D]

Did I miss something? I thought he said coming through CT.

That was his backup route. And the airport cases (which have held travel through an airport is not protected by FOPA) raises some doubt about whether travel on a vehicle ferry would be covered.

 

[2A All Day]

Did I miss something? I thought he said coming through CT.

I said based on the info I was provided from the gun shop I was lookin at purchasing from. they said I wasn’t able to transport a fully assembled AR style rife through NYC. (Normally I’d pass through the Bronx and Queens on my way home to LI) but I suggested I could possibly bypass the city and go through Connecticut and take the ferry home. However I don’t fully know if that is a possibility either as I am unaware of the law of transporting though Connecticut. But Marine Cpl. posted exactly what I needed.

 

[Bananabandit]

But Marine Cpl. posted exactly what I needed.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

 

[repete]

No info on your question but at this time I'd be more concerned about the hours the shop is open and if NICs are being done and how long it's taking. I got held up for a few days and that was when this shit just started.

 

[Jsmegs77]

The duration of time you're going to be in borough limits is not enough to panic about, the traffic levels are very low, and unless you're planning on stopping, you'll be out of NYC in 30 minutes.

Do what @Airborneguy said, don't stop, and don't stand out, and the issue will be over very quickly. To be honest you're more likely to have a LEO encounter in Nassau or Suffolk.

Welcome, btw, former Southampton town resident here.

 

[2A All Day]

No info on your question but at this time I'd be more concerned about the hours the shop is open and if NICs are being done and how long it's taking. I got held up for a few days and that was when this shit just started.

Great point. The shop says they could handle all new purchases including background checks. I heard the system was backed up for a couple days. Thank you!

 

[2A All Day]

The duration of time you're going to be in borough limits is not enough to panic about, the traffic levels are very low, and unless you're planning on stopping, you'll be out of NYC in 30 minutes.

Do what @Airborneguy said, don't stop, and don't stand out, and the issue will be over very quickly. To be honest you're more likely to have a LEO encounter in Nassau or Suffolk.

Welcome, btw, former Southampton town resident here.

That’s what I was hoping to begin with. Just wanting further knowledge to put my mind at ease. Thank you!

 

[Bozo]

Do what @Airborneguy said, don't stop, and don't stand out, and the issue will be over very quickly. To be honest you're more likely to have a LEO encounter in Nassau or Suffolk.

Yup, and the car is in perfect working order. No issues with lights, ratty exhaust , etc. Speed limit through the burroughs and you'll be fine.

Have a look at the FFL map at the top of the page. There may be a few individual FFLs near you working out of their homes that would be willing to do a transfer.