I give it at least a 50/50 chance.
Does the NSA record everything we type, even if it is never posted online ?
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Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It records everything you THINK!
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Who do you think does spell check on our posts?
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
They're also recording you poop when you play with your phone in the bathroom.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
No.
Next question please.
Next question please.
Well, it has been possible for decades to train a low power laser onto a window, so as to hear conversations inside.
Combine that with this:
Combine that with this:
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
It's not impossible, but to try anything fishy on the end-user level will be doomed to failure for any government. Why?
Do you realize how many people jail break phones or software that otherwise is "protected" against vulnerabilities? Do you really think someone isn't going to notice, when digging in places most people don't, that there is unexplained references or calls in code? Unexplained network traffic? Unaccounted for space? You'd have to coordinate, at best, all of these things I'm talking about, at the manufacturing level, to conceal spying at the end-user level (IE, your computer.) You'd have to have CPUs lying about their specs, threads, etc. Disks with mystery space (easily spotted the moment someone opens it and sees modules that don't appear obvious in the diagrams.).
It's much easier to grab information while in transit, as only the ISP (and likely the high level architects / infosec people working there) have any sort of access to figure that out / won't be talking due to NDAs.
So do I think they key log everything we type? No way. What we send over the internet? Probably some of it.
Do you realize how many people jail break phones or software that otherwise is "protected" against vulnerabilities? Do you really think someone isn't going to notice, when digging in places most people don't, that there is unexplained references or calls in code? Unexplained network traffic? Unaccounted for space? You'd have to coordinate, at best, all of these things I'm talking about, at the manufacturing level, to conceal spying at the end-user level (IE, your computer.) You'd have to have CPUs lying about their specs, threads, etc. Disks with mystery space (easily spotted the moment someone opens it and sees modules that don't appear obvious in the diagrams.).
It's much easier to grab information while in transit, as only the ISP (and likely the high level architects / infosec people working there) have any sort of access to figure that out / won't be talking due to NDAs.
So do I think they key log everything we type? No way. What we send over the internet? Probably some of it.
Well, it has been possible for decades to train a low power laser onto a window, so as to hear conversations inside.
Combine that with this:
That type of thing gets reserved for high value targets because it's manpower intensive. Sort of like how surveillance used to be done with teams of agents following someone, writing down who they met with, etc. Not enough agents to follow *everyone*, so only "important" targets got that treatment. High manpower surveillance still happens if you are really interesting to the 3 letter agencies, but the big game changer has been technology.
Today with online communications and always connected devices like cellphones (it's actually more of an always online pocket computer than a phone nowadays) they can and do tap backhauls and archive the data in transit. This type of thing is how they do mass surveillance. It doesn't take much manpower to do that, it just takes computing power and storage which has gotten cheaper and cheaper. The big change is technology making logarithmic advances in capability while simultaneously having orders of magnitude drops in prices. As an example, In the early 80's the entire FBI database set was around 1 TB and cost a LOT to store. Today you can go to Best Buy and get a 14 TB hard drive for under $200. It's so cheap to store data that they just store everything and can search it at a later point in time or use real time analytics on it to highlight things that might need an actual person to look at as interesting.
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
NSA's job is to gather information. So any information that is legal to gain would be considered fair game. They are not conducting investigations , They gather intelligence and filter it and pass it on to the ABC agency's if there's any relevance.
A Socialist Government can afford to be patient.
Hire some personnel, and begin with prominent individuals: Tucker, Hannity, Rush, etc.
Move on to Conservative Bloggers.
Forums like this one.
Trump supporters - even donating a buck lands you on a public database.
Pretty soon the opposition is easily crushed.
And who oversees this ?
Has there ever been a prosecution of any NSA Agent ?
If nothing else, I'll bet Agents have illegally surveilled wives and girlfriends they suspect of cheating on them.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
There was this guy a while ago by the name of Snowden...
technicalgadget
.223 Rem
Only if you use Facebook.
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
One guy who oversaw it was Adm. Mike Rodgers who went and told President-elect Trump he was being spied on at Trump Tower in NYC. President elect Trump moved to one of his other locations that day.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The NSA has systems that harvest, classify and organize all sort of data and metadata from all sort of communications and systems. This is done with the help of all telecoms, social media, isps, software and hardware companies.
So yes they can record anything that
A) they have access to
B) they can understand if they can translate it and/or decode it.
They cannot know anything they do not have access to or they cannot decode or understand.
So not sure why this is a survey. Opinions do not matter much here.
So yes they can record anything that
A) they have access to
B) they can understand if they can translate it and/or decode it.
They cannot know anything they do not have access to or they cannot decode or understand.
So not sure why this is a survey. Opinions do not matter much here.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
I would not doubt that they intercept much of the internet traffic. All those 80% lowers and parts kits you ordered - you can bet they know about.
OTOH, some of these threads on the forum probably have them shaking their heads wondering WTF is wrong with some of you
OTOH, some of these threads on the forum probably have them shaking their heads wondering WTF is wrong with some of you
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Yes. They harvest everything but the systems will be able to identify all sort of false positives and reclassify them based on crossing attributes from different dimensions and metadata. Also algorithms can segregate chatter from actual risks based on sentiment and narrative classification so in the end people talking politics, discussing sushi recipes, buying lowers, dildos or whatever else, or simply talking shit all day they end up at the bottom of the barrel. So nobody will bother to check or care about this shit we post all day.
I have to belive no. Otherwise I'd surely be in a "federal-pound-me-in-the-ass-prison" by now.
Vinson57
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I give it at least a 50/50 chance.
The fourth plan was headed here, trace the path it was on up to the point of where it went down and its not DC like they said.
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
I don’t think NSA gathers more info than Amazon
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Amazon is small fry compared to Apple or Google.
Your cell provider can probably tell when you're taking a dump.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Facebook listens to and records everything we say or type. My wife and I will have a conversation about something then my wife will get Facebook ads for it even though we did not search it.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I knew it!!!
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You are joking right?
NSA is solely dedicated to process, decode and interpret any type of communications not just data.
This is anywhere, any time all the time on this planet.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Yup. I've had the exact same experience. Have a conversation with someone and like magic the ads pop up in Facebook.
I'm willing to bet EVERYTHING you do that is online is tracked and stored.
I think that every single phone conversation you have now is stored.
I think every single text, picture, email etc that you send is stored.
The nsa is always looking for new ways to track us so I bet anything you do on a device that has internet is tracked and stored.
Hell they use smart tvs to spy on us. They know what we watch, what apps we have, when we are home, what we talk about etc. Don't you think it's odd that if you go shopping for a new tv finding a non smart tv now is almost impossible? The internet of things is a treasure trove of information to catalog and archive on us for future usage. We are all being given threat rating assessments.
Etc.
Yes. I bet were being spied on far more than we are aware of so yes, I bet they have found a way to track it.
The utah data center
I think that every single phone conversation you have now is stored.
I think every single text, picture, email etc that you send is stored.
The nsa is always looking for new ways to track us so I bet anything you do on a device that has internet is tracked and stored.
Hell they use smart tvs to spy on us. They know what we watch, what apps we have, when we are home, what we talk about etc. Don't you think it's odd that if you go shopping for a new tv finding a non smart tv now is almost impossible? The internet of things is a treasure trove of information to catalog and archive on us for future usage. We are all being given threat rating assessments.
Etc.
Yes. I bet were being spied on far more than we are aware of so yes, I bet they have found a way to track it.
The utah data center
Bustedknees
.308 Win
Watch the movie Snowden , then tell us what you think !