Missouri Gun Shop Refuses To Sell Weapons, Ammo To Biden Supporters, And They’re Very Upset
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Celt
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Good, claiming to be a supporter of the Second Amendment while supporting the Democrats and especially Beijing Biden is not possible. Therefore any claim to support the Second Amendment is worthless because the politicians they elected will actively work to shut it down.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Free enterprise. Facebook can ban some conservative speech, and gun shops can effectively ban gun ownership of the left. The sword can cut both ways.
In the end I think both are wrong, but the way you demonstrate both are wrong is that you take the argument to the logical conclusion -- which hopefully sparks the conversation of "maybe we should actually protect free speech and other amendments."
In this case, the logical conclusion is free enterprise will be weaponized via any legal means, as we've seen Facebook / Twitter / Amazon / Google demonstrate. It's not something that should be desired in this country, by any means, but it is something conservatives have to be willing to use in retaliation. Mutually assured censorship as a deterrent.
However, "mutually assured censorship" is absolutely not what we want. As temping as it will be for conservatives to do the same, my gut feeling here says that it will just leave the world a worse place. My gut is telling me the answer is to build free speech havens, and inflict economic pain on those that would choose to limit free speech. That seems like the way forward, rather than censoring both sides.
In the end I think both are wrong, but the way you demonstrate both are wrong is that you take the argument to the logical conclusion -- which hopefully sparks the conversation of "maybe we should actually protect free speech and other amendments."
In this case, the logical conclusion is free enterprise will be weaponized via any legal means, as we've seen Facebook / Twitter / Amazon / Google demonstrate. It's not something that should be desired in this country, by any means, but it is something conservatives have to be willing to use in retaliation. Mutually assured censorship as a deterrent.
However, "mutually assured censorship" is absolutely not what we want. As temping as it will be for conservatives to do the same, my gut feeling here says that it will just leave the world a worse place. My gut is telling me the answer is to build free speech havens, and inflict economic pain on those that would choose to limit free speech. That seems like the way forward, rather than censoring both sides.
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1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Really? We all know that leftist socialists/communists are the only ones allowed to decide who they will or won't do business with.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I have mixed feelings on this honestly. I know the left will still vote left regardless but if we effectively ban them from gun ownership were hurting ourselves worse. We want liberal gun owners going into real gun shops and gun ranges. We don’t need them going to dicks to buy a shotgun to sit in the closet. We need them to see real guns and use them so they can see the light. I’ve shown new and scared shooters how to shoot properly and their reaction is amazing. I showed people from France how to shoot properly and safely and they are terrified of guns. They literally tell me they are told if you touch a gun you will kill someone. Some one will die just by touching a gun. When they found out that wasn’t the case they smiled from ear to ear. It was wonderful to see.
GTN
.308 Win
How are they checking them out? Asking for their social media passcodes?
MuttCat
.223 Rem
Liberalism is a psychological disorder...maybe they should be flagged?
Toecutter
.308 Win
Democrats are violent extremists.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
This honestly sounds like grandstanding. There's no way for them to know unless someone outright tells them.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I thought about this exact point after i posted. My initial reaction is "good, fuck them". While I imagine many of them will never be true friends to the Second Amendment and they only want guns for their own selfish reasons, some may possibly be converted to see the light.
However, I fear that most leftist gun owners are just as bad as fudds in that they support registration, licensing, mandatory training, and any taxes and other infringement that come along with their politician of choice.
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I'd like all Americans that are working and honestly participating to have healthcare. How violent of me.
The first two words cover it for me. All of the rest is unneeded. Having a particular affiliation isn't a protected status. If they want to ban liberals or whatever, that's their right to do so in my book. Liberals can go to another store that will take their money. This is how the free market works. If liberals don't like it, any of them are free to start up their own gun shop.
Yeah, no thanks to any of that stuff.
Toecutter
.308 Win
Not about Healthcare, its about burning cities,attacking people for political views, murder , shooting politicians, constant threats of violence toward political rivals.baseless lies ,insidious behavior in general.
The violence comes in with the coercion of others to pay.
As stated, this is grandstanding.
drowhawk
.44 mag
Agreed. Compulsory taxation is a form of violence.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Yet you vote for people that actively pursue those things. How do you reconcile that for yourself?
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Some would make the case that confiscatory levels of taxes are slavery.
Originally, The Declaration of Independence was supposed to state, "...life, liberty, and property." The Founders understood that you only have a finite time on this planet. You only have a finite amount of life energy. If you expend that energy to work to obtain property, then that property represents a part of your life. Thus, if government takes your property through taxes, they are in essence claiming control of your life and thus have you in servitude.
After speaking with most people, after less than five minutes, I can usually understand where they lay
Many times, just a look can do it for me.
So, you would want the government to force me to pay for their insurance? And if I refuse? Seems quite violent to me
Toecutter
.308 Win
Or if they pull up wearing a mask ,gloves and face shield in a car by themselves.
Toecutter
.308 Win
Look for one of these on their dashboard.
There's lots of things the govt. does with tax money they take from me that I disagree with. That doesn't make it violent.
So, your answer is to take even more if my money to pay for others?
Don't pay your taxes starting next pay week, see what happens
Toecutter
.308 Win
As in? I'm sure there may be things we all agree on there, as for Healthcare congress has no authority to pass law on it, if they want to do it they need to ammend the constitution .
drowhawk
.44 mag
It is not how the government spends the money that makes it violence. The fact that if you don't pay, men with guns come to collect, that is the violent part.
Robin
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Briwesk85
.40 S&W
A local gun shop near me refused to sell a gun to someone with a Biden bumper sticker, and I agree with that. It’s their business, they can decide who they sell it to. If they can silence people on Facebook, guns stores can decide who they sell to.
How did that interaction go down?