Oregon set to recriminalize drugs and CA set to make drug test mandatory for public aid

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I don't think they should recriminalize drug use. What we do with our bodies is of no concern of the state. It is a control issue, first and foremost.

They should absolutely uphold existing laws when people break them, which would, in turn, lock up those who cannot control themselves. If you drink from the bottle, you're responsible for what comes next.

This is why I do not use drugs or drink. I am in full control.

if the Police have no duty to protect .. ( ruled by SCOTUS )

then the State / Govt has no duty to save a druggie ..



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Same goes for seatbelt laws ..

its just highway robbery at gun point ..

I can't believe I agree with something they're trying in Commiefornia.

I've been bitching for years about drug testing welfare recipients. Most companies test you to get a job so why shouldn't you be trsted to get taxpayer assisted living.

Apeman said:

I can't believe I agree with something they're trying in Commiefornia.

I've been bitching for years about drug testing welfare recipients. Most companies test you to get a job so why shouldn't you be trsted to get taxpayer assisted living.

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no need to drug test them ..

if you sign up for welfare ( help )

you have to go to school to learn something you can do with your handicaps

and have to pass all the classes too .. or no $$$$ ..

like i did when i got Electrocuted and could not work from the burns i had ..

but i could go to a collage while healing .. and learn .. just had to pass the classes

which i did ..


if not .. sorry

End welfare. Open up warehouses in every city that provide quality staple foods that anyone can come pick up, no qualifications necessary, no applications, no nothing. Potatoes, rice, beans, maybe some zucchini or something. Walk out with whatever you need.

By eliminating all of the overhead, the cost of welfare would be a tiny fraction of what it is today. And no one could complain about having to go hungry.

Maybe they should criminalize the people that decriminalized it?

libertysnake said:

I don't think they should recriminalize drug use. What we do with our bodies is of no concern of the state. It is a control issue, first and foremost.

They should absolutely uphold existing laws when people break them, which would, in turn, lock up those who cannot control themselves. If you drink from the bottle, you're responsible for what comes next.

This is why I do not use drugs or drink. I am in full control.

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Acer-m14 said:

if the Police have no duty to protect .. ( ruled by SCOTUS )

then the State / Govt has no duty to save a druggie ..

PS ,,,,

Same goes for seatbelt laws ..

its just highway robbery at gun point ..

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Both good points!

Decriminalized Drug possession or use wasn't such a bad idea. But the logistics in carrying out the agenda is, was ...

Couple it with bail Reform and THAT is the disasterous policies that have taken hold. The State no longer wants to prosecute or house convicts... They'd rather them be on the street, which they are! Same for those who are not fit to be in society due to mental issues but are no longer institutionalized, they too are out on the streets.

Law Enforcement is just the tip of the iceberg... The JUSTICE SYSTEM is designed to institute one of two things... Reformative action to try and create a responsible citizen who can exist in Society and learn the lesson of their mistake and prevent recidivism. Or Punitive action, to make an offender of societal norms PAY for their transgressions! Regardless of their ability to re-enter society after their debt has been paid!...

It's apparent the former is not working, no matter how hard the tree hugging criminal migrant coddlers want to deny it. Reformative Justice does not work... And career criminals laugh their asses off each yup their hand slapped and let go, back into society that they care little about. They just do what they do and keep doing it...

I believe cracking rocks for food works!!! No 3 squares with cable TV and AC... Doesn't have to be Gulag type shit, but sweat earns respect. And sweat reminds you daily of what you did was wrong, and why you're cracking rocks! Hard labor ... Anyways... There was a movie once that highlighted this simple fact...

What we have here is a failure to communicate!!! And that some men, just can't be reached!!!

Lol, and THAT'S a fact!

I am required to take a random drug tests to keep my CDL and Hazmat that I pay out of my pocket to have. Its only right that people who get government handouts for free including welfare get drug tested to keep their free handouts.

libertysnake said:

I don't think they should recriminalize drug use. What we do with our bodies is of no concern of the state. It is a control issue, first and foremost.

They should absolutely uphold existing laws when people break them, which would, in turn, lock up those who cannot control themselves. If you drink from the bottle, you're responsible for what comes next.

This is why I do not use drugs or drink. I am in full control.

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Respectfully disagree. If we had a drug problem when they were illegal, how could things possibly get better when they became legal? This simply made no logical sense.

Social Darwinism was at play............................libertarian drug use theory....... meets reality.
De Criminalization was genocide, with a Gov't smile, and all gayness/frivolity.

it was a Glock in a syringe, and ended many many many lost and barren lives, as Fentaynl does to the whites...........

No one really recovers from drug addiction..
I have seen it too many times.

Talk about living in a “free state,” that’s a whole ‘nother level of freedom right there.

And the beat goes on... ... ... ...
Users are going to be users regardless of what the latest and greatest laws are.

Common sense.... Reopen mental institutions and move the crazy park and sidewalk dwellers into them. Put the violent people behind bars. And provide help to those that want and will accept it. No reason why working people should pay outlandish taxes and then not be safe walking the public streets.

I know, won't happen. Support your local democrats...

Willyone said:

And the beat goes on... ... ... ...
Users are going to be users regardless of what the latest and greatest laws are.

Common sense.... Reopen mental institutions and move the crazy park and sidewalk dwellers into them. Put the violent people behind bars. And provide help to those that want and will accept it. No reason why working people should pay outlandish taxes and then not be safe walking the public streets.

I know, won't happen. Support your local democrats...

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Ah, yes- Reagan’s *actual* trickle down theory: Deinstitutionalize the mentally ill and turn them loose on society.

Saltwater60 said:

The problem is from what I’m hearing is it’s way out of hand. Drug use and overdoses regularly right in the streets. Homeless people all over theft rampant and retail stores closing because people are afraid to come shop downtown.
If you legalize hard addictive drugs it’s almost like the government is condoning it saying it’s safe and we all know it’s not. Even weed with more research they are finding it’s really bad for you with increased cancer and heart disease risks.

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Just because someone is on drugs does not mean they get a pass for breaking the law.

There are two separate things. The government has no business giving permission regarding our bodies, period. It is not their domain. If I want to poison myself, that is my choice to do so.

libertysnake said:

Just because someone is on drugs does not mean they get a pass for breaking the law.

There are two separate things. The government has no business giving permission regarding our bodies, period. It is not their domain. If I want to poison myself, that is my choice to do so.

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I agree no free pass for breaking the law.

I will agree with the rest when we no longer have:
Taxpayer funded safety net free housing, food cellphone etc for the users.
911 for the OD taxing an already overwhelmed system in many areas paid for by us.
Free Narcan paid for by us.
Free ER visit / hospital stay ( paid for by the rest of us)

There are mental hospitals..they are open air sidewalks.............death rates high. They will kill for drugs.............once cut off.

It is a Darwinian solution...free drugs.............end of watch.

This girl was a friend of my late daughter...her parents were cops...............on day she fell in front of a train at Grand Central..she was on valium heroin, pot, methadone, cocaine and more.

pjzwtl said:

I agree no free pass for breaking the law.

I will agree with the rest when we no longer have:
Taxpayer funded safety net free housing, food cellphone etc for the users.
911 for the OD taxing an already overwhelmed system in many areas paid for by us.
Free Narcan paid for by us.
Free ER visit / hospital stay ( paid for by the rest of us)

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Tax payers should not be on the hook to save sidewalk dweller drug users that OD over and over. They ought to be subject to a DNR rule... maybe like a "three strikes and yer out rule". Come save #3, adios mutha fucka