Undocumented Immigrants Have Right to Own Guns, Judge Rules (merged)

If I were one of those permit holders from another state that got pinched in Jersey or New York for having a gun on them, I’d be calling my lawyer yesterday.

So, the Rights in the US Constitution are not inalienable?

So now every Thomás, Ricardo, and Heriberto can just have a gun?

Oh, por el amor de la mierda.

I just want to know how these guys are passing their NICS checks...

FP1201 said:

Unless they're big Cartel players or previously identified by Military/CIA intelligence, I highly doubt if Interpol would have any record, and despite deep roots into Foreign Governments Computers, there's little chance of the FBI finding anything, let alone anything disqualifying in a NICS check.

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In the very least they're lying on the 4473 when they answer "are you a fugitive from justice".

spat said:

In the very least they're lying on the 4473 when they answer "are you a fugitive from justice".

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That brings us to the question of the gun itself. How did he obtain it to begin with, and how many laws were broken in that process?

Gun must have been obtained illegally since in Chicago you need background check and foid card because IL requires both for possession.
Was he charged at the states level or only federally? I wonder if state charges will becoming or not.
The government tried to say he was a dangerous person for crossing the boarder illegally so that’s interesting to say the least.
I wonder if the government will appeal it or accept it and I wonder if there will be more lawsuits to follow in other areas.
I have mixed feelings on this if we don’t know who these people are. If they are good people fine give them guns as it will only help us in the future hopefully.

This judge initially said the opposite...................and on appeal changed her mind after Libs said that this would be a case to screw over gunowners with.

convoluted...........

There is a difference between possessing a gun as an illegal........ and buying a gun with NICS check...which illegals cannot pass, unless they lie on the 4473 like Hunter, and there is no law that demands and a gun store sell a gun.....no law whatsoever...it is not like buying salt and pepper.

In fact gun shops are advised not to process a transaction that they think is suspicious.

So this is an attack on the very 4473 process which the Judge says is unconstitutional for illegals............then it has to be unconstitutional for everyone, like we all believe anyway...................

But she did it with the intend to stop ALL 4473 guns sales.......... until a selective method might be invented......while allowing all illegal gun sales to anyone --BLM, Illegals, Terrorists...

This decision is like many Sotomayor made as a lower judge...60% of her insane rulings were oveturned on appeal..

Never trust a Lib.

I'm beyond done here. Does anyone else see the problem? I do not mean that he is not being charged. Maybe I'm over-reacting?

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In the very least they're lying on the 4473 when they answer "are you a fugitive from justice".

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No I am a newcomer

So we have to renounce our US citizenship now in order to have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms?

Might be a very viable option, given that illegals get all of the free stuff, don't have to pay taxes to work, can cross the border without a passport or consequences, and can break our laws with almost total impunity while also serving as ARMED Law Enforcement in shitholes like Commieformia.

Illegals are clearly the new super class. They don't need citizenship to have more "rights" than the fucking People who were born and raised here!!!

Who knew that being a Natural Born "citizen" in the United States merely granted us the status of serf?

Is it fucking time yet???

John Stark said:

So we have to renounce our US citizenship now in order to have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms?

Might be a very viable option, given that illegals get all of the free stuff, don't have to pay taxes to work, can cross the border without a passport or consequences, and can break our laws with almost total impunity while also serving as ARMED Law Enforcement in shitholes like Commieformia.

Illegals are clearly the new super class. They don't need citizenship to have more "rights" than the fucking People who were born and raised here!!!

Who knew that being a Natural Born "citizen" in the United States merely granted us the status of serf?

Is it fucking time yet???

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Funny thing is if you renounce your citizenship you lose your gun rights and I’ll bet this Obama liberal judge you lock you up.

When some illegal alien squatters attempt to own guns and also use the castle doctrine against the true owner, we get some new and interesting gun cases.

John Stark said:

So we have to renounce our US citizenship now in order to have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms?

Might be a very viable option, given that illegals get all of the free stuff, don't have to pay taxes to work, can cross the border without a passport or consequences, and can break our laws with almost total impunity while also serving as ARMED Law Enforcement in shitholes like Commieformia.

Illegals are clearly the new super class. They don't need citizenship to have more "rights" than the fucking People who were born and raised here!!!

Who knew that being a Natural Born "citizen" in the United States merely granted us the status of serf?

Is it fucking time yet???

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It's been time for a decade or 2 .

JRtraderny said:

It's been time for a decade or 2 .

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Or 6